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To: Tired of Taxes
If everyone is forced to pay into the public school system, then every child is entitled to be there.

Bull crap. They are not capable of learning. Schools are places where teachers teach and children learn. No one has found any method to teach anyone with IQ’s that low. The U.S. military will not even allow people with IQ’s that low to enlist. Remove the cognitive disability from the problem and replace it with a violent child that repeatedly beats other children and disturbs class. His parents may pay taxes but he has no business being in school either. Completely remove the school from the scenario. We all pay taxes for things that we receive no benefit. In fact, the vast majority of government spending most people receive no benefit.

As for spending money on education in general, the federal government has no constitutional power to do anything with education. It squarely falls under the 10th Amendment. There are states that have constitutions and laws that inject government into education. Personally, I do not want any level of government involved in education. I chose to homeschool my children to avoid government. Not only did I pay property taxes for other’s education, I paid to homeschool. It’s not words to me. It was action.

As for college, IQ’s and SATs, these are are only tools to roughly determine academic success. High school GPA’s and subject exams are better indicators of academic success. Many factors should be considered. I am an advocate of very high standards, but that doesn’t mean that there cannot be colleges with low standards. But, that comes with consequences.

If a new college graduate applied for a job at my company (retired now) with a degree from Cheney, Lincoln, Del State or any other non competitive college in the area, they would be immediately turned down for an interview. That’s simply based on making a decision to go to a non competitive college when there are comparably priced educations of much better quality. It’s not worth the time and money to interview someone with low standards. It wasn’t a fit for my business.

Credentialism is a major problem in America. Education institutions at nearly all levels graduate incompetents and have grade inflation. There is also a major push for every child to go to college. That neglects other very needed avenues to prepare people for careers that do not require an academic education. Additionally, colleges have invented junk studies majors to accommodate idiots. That doesn’t prepare those people graduating with a studies degree and it increases the tuition costs for students in majors that actually lead to being a productive citizen.

36 posted on 07/24/2023 7:48:43 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: ConservativeInPA
You wrote: "I chose to homeschool my children to avoid government. Not only did I pay property taxes for other’s education, I paid to homeschool. It’s not words to me. It was action."

So did I, and I paid a fortune in school taxes (hence, my screenname) for a school system my children never attended. However, all my neighbors paid a fortune, too, so I understood why other parents sent their children to public school.

You wrote: "Bull crap. They are not capable of learning. Schools are places where teachers teach and children learn. No one has found any method to teach anyone with IQ’s that low."

Are you saying the children with intellectual disabilities (for example, Downs Syndrome) and learning disabilities aren't worth an educational program? You think public schools should educate only children who score above a certain number on an IQ test? People with disabilities hold jobs, too. If anyone needs an education, they do. The students without learning disabilities are the ones who don't need a public school education. As a homeschool parent, you know they can learn on their own. Once a student can read, he can pretty much teach himself and then start college early.

You wrote: "...a violent child that repeatedly beats other children and disturbs class. His parents may pay taxes but he has no business being in school either."

Agreed. A student who terrorizes other students or staff members should not be in a school with other students, no matter what his academic record shows or how much his parents pay in taxes.

You wrote: "Personally, I do not want any level of government involved in education."

Then, you should be in favor of cutting public school spending to the bare minimum so that private schools can compete. Public school is supposed to be a form of WELFARE. It should offer a basic education and nothing more. Instead, too many parents today expect public school to raise and educate their children to advanced levels.

If public school spending (and school taxes) were cut drastically, more parents would look to the free market for a more advanced education. Then, they would be free to choose (and pay for) the private schools they prefer. The free market would offer more options.

You wrote: "If a new college graduate applied for a job at my company (retired now) with a degree from Cheney, Lincoln, Del State or any other non competitive college in the area, they would be immediately turned down for an interview. That’s simply based on making a decision to go to a non competitive college when there are comparably priced educations of much better quality."

Well, everyone has a preference. Your company preferred graduates from colleges with low acceptance rates, like Harvard and Yale, I guess.

Community colleges have a 100% acceptance rate, and I know many people who took that route. Most of them transferred to universities for junior and senior years. They were smart because they saved money, and they're all doing well in life.

37 posted on 07/25/2023 2:44:44 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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