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Are we nearing the limits of our species?
July 20, 2023 | Jonty30

Posted on 07/21/2023 6:47:55 AM PDT by Jonty30

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To: GingisK
I've never bought the Malthusian theory.

Malthusianism is the theory that population growth is potentially exponential, according to the Malthusian growth model, while the growth of the food supply or other resources is linear, which eventually reduces living standards to the point of triggering a population decline. This event, called a Malthusian catastrophe (also known as a Malthusian trap, population trap, Malthusian check, Malthusian crisis, Malthusian spectre, or Malthusian crunch) occurs when population growth outpaces agricultural production, causing famine or war, resulting in poverty and depopulation. Such a catastrophe inevitably has the effect of forcing the population to "correct" back to a lower, more easily sustainable level (quite rapidly, due to the potential severity and unpredictable results of the mitigating factors involved, as compared to the relatively slow time scales and well-understood processes governing unchecked growth or growth affected by preventive checks). Malthusianism has been linked to a variety of political and social movements, but almost always refers to advocates of population control.

For one thing, replacement births are going way, way down. As country after country goes from abject poverty to less poverty, women are having fewer babies. Modern medicine means fewer children die before 5 YO, which also leads to fewer babies born.

The world population should peak at about 11 million by 2100...

As far as resources go, look at the little European country known as the Netherlands. Given their extremely small size geographically, they are ranked the number three food exporter in the world, ranking only behind the USA, #1, and Brazil, #2. They Dutch are building and using multi-story buildings as greenhouses, with LEDs providing light to what would otherwise be dark floors shaded by ceilings and walls.

Pretty remarkable!

21 posted on 07/21/2023 8:41:13 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thank you for the link.


22 posted on 07/21/2023 8:41:57 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Alas Babylon!
multi-story buildings as greenhouses

Smart!

23 posted on 07/21/2023 8:44:04 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: laplata

The most serious threat to the life and liberty of any society or nation of free people is a liberal female.


24 posted on 07/21/2023 8:45:57 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: GingisK
Dutch Greenhouses and indoor farms:



25 posted on 07/21/2023 8:51:49 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Jonty30
The developed world responded to the perceived population pressure (or propaganda thereof) by limiting our birthrate to below replacement.
The underdeveloped world did not, they are invading the developed world instead. And we are stupid enough to allow it.

I believe humans are perfectly capable of adapting to new situations, given accurate information.
But accurate information is apparently in short supply. On purpose. We are being manipulated.
I don't buy into the Climate or Population hysteria, because even if it was real, we have the capacity to deal with it.
We can build better, we can relocate north or south, drilling for water, energy and growing food is not magic.

26 posted on 07/21/2023 8:55:21 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: alexander_busek
And does the author really mean every species?

No, just humans...

...and cats.

27 posted on 07/21/2023 8:58:27 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: jmacusa

True.

Hitlery Clinton, for instance, would make Mao or Hitler or Stalin look like Boy Scouts if she gained the power she desires.


28 posted on 07/21/2023 9:26:35 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Jonty30

Sterilization would be a great help besides many don’t want kids but like making them.

Help them out a win win deal.


29 posted on 07/21/2023 10:27:57 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Jonty30

I don’t think it’s a good assumption that if the species hit its limit that top would begin to democratize. For one that democratizing would be a continued evolution, thus showing society hasn’t hit its limit. And really what’s a limit? The world is constantly changing, people are constantly changing, society is constantly changing.


30 posted on 07/21/2023 10:32:53 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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