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Ukraine's Recent Attack on the Crimean Bridge & Why it Doesn't Matter
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Posted on 07/18/2023 4:02:51 AM PDT by ganeemead

Crimea was liberated in 2014 and will remain liberated

All attempts by hohonazis, natofops, and neoconwankers to re-subjugate Crimea will fail.


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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

BTW, you do know over 2 million, demographic majority Russians by history, ethnicity, heritage and by choice …who live in Crimea, they aren’t going anywhere…though the Ukes openly state they will deport them (or worse) once they “ liberate” Crimea.

The Russian Black Fleet is also going nowhere. In fact is expanding.

Russia is not leaving Crimea. No matter what genocidal offensive NATO tries to help the neo-nazi nationalists to try.

End of lecture


41 posted on 07/18/2023 2:08:16 PM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: tlozo

Now do maps of the vote for pro-Russian political leadership since then.


42 posted on 07/18/2023 2:09:41 PM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: silverleaf
Truly I was NOT mad at you, I just thought you didn’t understand what I was trying to say. It was probably my fault for not being too clear. Perhaps “lecture” was not the right word for me to use. I didn’t mean to sound angry, please accept my apology. I was trying to point out that there might be a good reason to destroy the bridge, if it could mean ending the war with Russia retreating.
43 posted on 07/18/2023 2:17:09 PM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: silverleaf

“The Russian Black (Sea) Fleet is also going nowhere. In fact is expanding.”

Unless Russia is building new warships in the Black Sea then no, the Black Sea Fleet is not expanding. Per the Montreux Convention the government of Turkey has closed the Bosporus to all transit by warships. This means there are no reinforcements going to the Black Sea for Russia.

In fact two Russian warships had waited nine months trying to gain passage to the Black Sea when they finally gave up and apparently headed for Vladivostok.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russia-withdraws-two-war-ships-after-turkey-denies-black-sea-access

The Russian Black Sea fleet is therefore not expanding.


44 posted on 07/18/2023 3:14:43 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Do you not realize the Russians can and are building new and refurbishing older ships in their territory inside the Black Sea littoral?

https://jamestown.org/program/an-arsenal-of-empire-russian-naval-construction-in-crimea-and-implications-for-black-sea-security/

New Azov Sea fleet organization planned for Mariupol
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-creates-affiliate-black-sea-121001166.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-bolsters-azov-sea-flotilla-185700402.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Ukraine: Russia increases combat ready warships in Black Sea, adds 2 Kaliber carriers

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/07/16/Ukraine-Russia-increases-combat-ready-warships-in-Black-Sea-adds-2-Kaliber-carriers

They can move newly commissioned or transferred ships into the Black Sea through rivers and canals, recently saw an article about the logistics but cannot remember where


45 posted on 07/18/2023 4:51:24 PM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: silverleaf

Plans to add these LHD’s in 2026/7

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/08/russias-project-23900-lhd-to-be-able-to-operate-in-the-arctic/

Fleet expansion began after Crimea was annexed
According to the Russian state weapons program designed until 2027, fourteen warships intended for Russia’s Black Sea Fleet were laid down at Crimean shipyards in 2016–2020, including Karakurt-class cruise missile corvettes, modular patrol ships, and perhaps most notably, two 40,000-ton Project 23900 helicopter-carrier amphibious assault ships (LHD). LHDs are unique in naval warfare because they have an unparalleled capability to carry out surprise, blitzkrieg amphibious missions as well as perform fleet command-and-control (C2) management—a capability Russia lacks in the Black Sea since the sinking of the fleet’s capital ship, Moskva, back in April. At the same time, they can operate beyond the reach of coastal artillery and even some missile systems. In the Black Sea or the Mediterranean, those capabilities can significantly change the regional balance of forces by giving Russia more military options than it has had until now. They will dramatically enhance Russia’s power projection capabilities and decrease the time window for amphibious operations from several days down to hours.
https://jamestown.org/program/an-arsenal-of-empire-russian-naval-construction-in-crimea-and-implications-for-black-sea-security/


46 posted on 07/18/2023 4:58:41 PM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: silverleaf

I took a look at the Zaliv Shipyard and they have two RO/RO ships under construction. Two littoral ships are alongside with one in decent shape and the other covered in rust.

The plans for Mariupol are irrelevant now that it’s in missile range for Ukraine.


47 posted on 07/18/2023 5:17:02 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

He seems to have a chip on his shoulder after having a week to think things over. If he continues this, it would make sense for the mods to finally send him off for good.


48 posted on 07/19/2023 9:13:38 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: BobL
--- "... the mods...."

It is most interesting to me that one two "daily" threads, one speedy and one Methodist, that citing Mr. Robinson, as if only they may properly interpret the advice to us all, has become a most regular behavior. It now moves onto other Ukraine-related threads. In one instance the gambit was trotted out on one threads several times, as if to intimidate. That would seem the intent.

I am confident that "the mods" will do as they do on these and all threads, and do not need a speedy-adjacnet or mother-adjacent individual to cite the URL without noting that Robinson has written of the Ukraine war, that one "may have a difference of opinion whether or not the US government should be involved in a controversial foreign war where we were not attacked."

I cited that in a comment, and the individual to whom it was addressed responded "your response doesn't make any sense in that context, so I am just going to disregard it."

I think the mods should and will do as they will. But repeatedly citing Robinson via a URL and excerpt from the message while ignoring another part of the same message" details for me their gambit. Cynical and whiny.

49 posted on 07/20/2023 3:25:50 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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