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Why the British Royal Crown Failed to Save the Romanovs
History.com ^ | 7/17/22 | Barbara Maranzani

Posted on 07/16/2023 6:56:07 PM PDT by DallasBiff

That the end of the Russian Empire brought about by Russian Revolution also resulted in the former Emperor’s execution now feels like an inevitability. However, though his monarchy was overthrown, Nicholas and his family were related to many other royal families, thanks to Queen Victoria’s habit of arranging marriages for her offspring across Europe.

In the 15 months from his abdication to his death, royal relations still in power debated if and how they should grant the family asylum, with many of the Romanov descendants believing King George V of England, the czar’s cousin and grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II, could have saved them.

Would this have been a possibility, or were they doomed from the start? Here’s how the events unfolded leading up to their brutal deaths

(Excerpt) Read more at history.com ...


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To: reasonisfaith
Thus it is fair to claim that the Israelis are not only NOT Semites at all, but are the biggest anti-Semites in the whole world for their massive land theft of Palestinian land and genocide against Palestinians.

Those rascally Jooooz--always up to no good.

81 posted on 07/25/2023 6:00:28 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

They hated Jews while pretending to be Jews.

They faked their religion for a long time, ultimately faking their entire history and ethnicity.

So they’re nothing but fakes, which makes them low IQ. I’m not saying the Khazarians are low IQ as some kind of personal insult against them. I’m simply stating objective fact.


82 posted on 07/28/2023 10:59:38 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith
If Khazars are all low-IQ, then how did they succeed in faking their religion and their history for a thousand-plus years? Seems to me that would take some brains.

And if Khazars are the genetic ancestors of all low-Q people in the world, then are the Bidens, Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg of Khazarian ancestry?

83 posted on 07/29/2023 6:48:43 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Yeah but it caught up with them at the end.


84 posted on 07/29/2023 6:50:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: reasonisfaith

Where are the facts? Where is Khazarian DNA? Where is Turkic linguistic evidence?


85 posted on 07/29/2023 6:59:00 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

You seem to be implying that failure to see a deliberately hidden group of people means they don’t exist.

Can you understand the logical incoherence of this idea?


86 posted on 07/30/2023 10:30:08 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Fiji Hill

Lying and fakery are neither the mechanism nor the product of intelligence. In both process and outcome, these actions represent stupidity.

Certainly, the Khazars would prefer to think of themselves as intelligent. But this does not make them so.

They have fooled themselves and those who follow them. The people you name could be in either category.


87 posted on 07/30/2023 10:34:53 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

Burden is on the proponents to prove facts. As always.


88 posted on 07/30/2023 11:02:38 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto; reasonisfaith
In his book The Thirteenth Tribe (New York: Random House, 1976), novelist Arthur Koestler advanced the hypothesis that the thirteenth-century Mongol invasion of Central Asia drove the Khazars into Poland, where they generated the rise of Judaism in Europe. However, the book was mostly panned by scholars as poorly researched and hastily written.

Genetic research in this century has shown no link between the Khazars and modern-day Ashkenazi Jews.

89 posted on 07/30/2023 12:40:39 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: jjotto; Fiji Hill

Oppenheim’s research on Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel, Muslim Kurds, Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area, and Bedouin from the Negev.

The study states Ashkenazi Jews with Eu 19 chromosome grouping may be descendents of the Khazars.

http://www.mrbrklyn.com/resources/jewish_genetics2.html


90 posted on 07/30/2023 5:24:17 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Fiji Hill; jjotto

“Scholars” doesn’t sound very credible.

Here is some evidence for the link between some of today’s populations and the Khazars.

“In Elhaik (2013), we tested the genetic diversity among European Jews in light of the two hypotheses: the Rhineland Hypothesis (the narrative) and the competing Khazarian Hypothesis. The results unambiguously support the Khazarian Hypothesis, portraying the European Jewish genome as a tapestry of ancient ancestries and high heterogeneity. This is the most popular paper published in GBE. It was ranked #1 most-read paper since its publication. This work was widely covered by the media (see Press).”

https://eranelhaiklab.org/


91 posted on 07/30/2023 5:26:39 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

To be clear, you believe the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are not the Jews of today, but are Turkic or Europeans instead? Is that right?


92 posted on 07/30/2023 6:31:55 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

No, that’s not right.

Wow, you came very close to believing the opposite of reality.

What I’m saying is there are real Jews, and as the Bible tells us, there are those who say they are Jews but are not.

The descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the true Israelites.


93 posted on 07/30/2023 8:01:05 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith
Sorry Faith in Lack of Reason, but you are proving the adage that conspiracy is the false sophistication of the ignorant.

“Kaiser” is apparently derived from “Khazar.”
"Kaiser" means Emperor and is derived from the Roman name and then title of "Caesar." It sounds like it, which is a dead giveaway. The "Kh" is Khazar is a Voiceless velar fricative like the "x" in Mexican Spanish, or "kh" in Russian.
The Bolsheviks were mostly not Russians.
Assinine lies of inbred drunk nobles. The vast majority were Russian. The most over-represented minority were Latvians, not Jews. The communist solution to the Jewish question was the end of Judaism and Jewishness. The Soviet Communist Pary had an entire section dedicated to this.

The deep state of that time and place were, as they are here and now, the descendants of the Khazars.
The idea that Ashkenazi Jews are all Khazars was quite literally Soviet propoganda. They didn't originate it, but they were the major spreaders of this lie. Likewise, Marx and his follwerswere antisemites spreading conspiracies about the Rothschilds, in counries, where Jews couldn't vote. You think yourself smart but are litterally spreading Bolshevik propaganda.

94 posted on 09/04/2023 11:22:50 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: reasonisfaith
Sorry Faith in Lack of Reason, but you are proving the adage that conspiracy is the false sophistication of the ignorant. Worse yet, these were communist conspiracies. The myth of the evil oppressive Khazars comes from Soviet "Historian" Lev Gumilev, who sought to portray the mercantile Khazars as proto-capitalists and the Rus as always looking for communism. Gumilev also made it Soviet ideology that Ashkenazi Jews were Khazars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/23615444

Likewise conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds have been literal communist propaganda since Karl Marx.

Your sources, Preston James and Mike Harris, are wrong on every claim they didn't plagiarize. There was no Khazaria in 1250 and Persia had been razed by the Mongols and was part of their empire. In 1250, there was no Kievan Rus. The Mongols had conquered it a decade earler. There was also no Khazaria in 1250. The last Khazar state was destroyed in 1016, and its ruler was the Christian Georgius Tzul.
In 750, Persia was part of the Islamic Caliphate, not an independent nation. In 737 CE, the Caliphate won the Third Arab-Khazar War with a sneak attack, killing the Khagan Bek and imposing Islam. The Khazars were allies of the Christian Eastern Roman/Byzantine Empire and fought the Caliphate in three wars over a century. The Rus wre in no position to impose anything on Khazaria. They were Swedish and related traders around modern St. Petersberg and what is now Finland. The first Rus state was the Rus Khaganaate centered around Holmgard (Vielky Novgorod) in the late 8th century. They didn't hate the Khazars. They modeled themselves on the Khazars, using the same form of government, a Khaganate, which had a ceremonial religious leader, the Khagan, and a secular leader, the Khagan Bek (chief noble.)

Khazaria had no king. It had a Khagan who was a ceremonial leader and religious leader in Tengrist Shamanism, as a member of the Ashina Clan. The Ashina clan claimed to be descendants of the Tengrist Wolf diety (Asena) and had been the ruling family in the previous Gokturk Khaganate. In 740 the partial conversion to Judaism actually occurred. Khagan Bek Bulan, who held a role similar to a Shogun, converted to show independence from the Christian Eastern Romans and Islamic Caliphate. But the Khagan remained a Tengrist Shaman and the most Khazar nobles, most Khazars, and most Turkic people in the Khazar Khaganate remained Tengrist. Only a small nuber of Khazar nobles converted and married ethnic Jews. Khazaria had a pre-existing Jewish population and Jewish traders. Moreover, in the 9th century, Jews fled to Khazaria from the Byzantine and Islamic Empires. In so far as Khazarian means "relating to the Khazar Empire, most Khazarian Jews were not ethnic Khazars. Most Khazars converted to ISLAM. The myth that Ashkeanzi Jews are Khazars has been disproven by history, linguistics, and genetics.
As I've said earlier, cant about the Rothschilds was Communist propaganda since Marx. So screaming about Khazarian Rothschilds is not only a non-sequitur and false, but double Soviet propoganda.
Most Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi, but Mizrahi and Sephardi. Preston James doesn't know human genetics from those of a slime mold.

95 posted on 09/04/2023 11:54:27 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: reasonisfaith
If the Khazarians are not the genetic origin of all low IQ in the world, I’m not aware of how such a thing could be true.
Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ one standard deviation above the norm for Whites. Don't bring up IQ. You don't understand it either.
96 posted on 09/04/2023 11:56:45 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: dljordan
Actually, the Bolshevik leaders were funded, armed, and transported back to Russia by the Imperial German high command to take Russia out of the war. And the Bolsheviks in Petrograd were armed by the Provisional Government during Kornilov's attempted coup.
97 posted on 09/04/2023 11:59:39 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: reasonisfaith

Josephus never spoke of Kozars or Khazars. There is no evidence of them existing until the 4th century. If you want to find out about Khazars, start with http://www.khazaria.com


98 posted on 09/05/2023 12:01:14 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: reasonisfaith
Eran Elhaik is a communist who destroyed his career with this propoganda. He didn't know when and where Khazaria existed. He claimed that Georgians and Armenians are proto-Khazars, which makes no sense. Khazars were Oghur Turks related to Huns, Sibirs, and Bulghars. In fact, until the Khazars and Bulghars were one people under the Gokturk Khaganate. When this empire collapsed the Ak-Katzroi (Khazar nobles) remained loyal to the Ashina Clan, which has ruled the Gokturk Khaganate. Other Oghur Turks followed the Dulo Clan and created Bulgharia Magna. This started a civil war, which the Bulghars lost, leading so to travel up the Volga created Volga Bulgaria, and others to flee to Thrace, creating Balkan Bulgharia under Krum.
Khazars were not a Caucasian people. Worse, Goergia and Armenia were never part of Khazaria. What Elhaik did was the equivalent of calling Indians proto-Chinese.
Elhaik's work was so monumentally stupid that neo-Nazis thought it was a trap.
99 posted on 09/05/2023 12:12:28 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: rmlew

I’d say the real Jews are significantly more intelligent than the fake ones.


100 posted on 09/05/2023 8:17:06 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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