I don't think that is true. People *SAY* i'm spouting crazy talk, but this is only because I am saying things they don't want to hear, not because the things i'm saying are crazy.
You have to deal with the fact that indifference, a live and let live attitude, or an unwillingness to complete with slave labor and slaveowners doesn't amount to hatred.
I do not dispute that an unwillingness to compete with slave labor was a powerful motivating factor regarding why whites didn't want slavery, and if an effort is made to chose between which issue they hated more, the presence of blacks or free labor undercutting their wages, I would be hard pressed to say which was the more dominant issue for them.
But I can say with a great deal of confidence that their opposition to slavery did not emanate from a concern about the welfare of black people.
For a small minority of abolitionists it did, but most people were not concerned about that at all.
A third issue was a resentment and or envy of wealthy slave owners and their wealth and arrogance, but I don't see this aspect as being more dominant than the other two.
The least reason people opposed slavery was because of concern for the slaves.
I think it's more that you ignore objections and counterarguments and keep posting the same disproven stuff.
I do not dispute that an unwillingness to compete with slave labor was a powerful motivating factor regarding why whites didn't want slavery, and if an effort is made to chose between which issue they hated more, the presence of blacks or free labor undercutting their wages, I would be hard pressed to say which was the more dominant issue for them.
I don't deny that what we call racism was a factor for many. That was true of both sides in that dispute. But I also don't deny that moral arguments also played a role. If we were a country founded on liberty, how did slavery fit into that?
But I can say with a great deal of confidence that their opposition to slavery did not emanate from a concern about the welfare of black people.
Many were moved by the beatings that slaves endured and by seeing people in chains and on the auction block. But I think you have to understand that 19th century politics weren't preoccupied with some idea of loving kindness, or the welfare state, or integration, or multiculturalism. People were expected to be free and fend for themselves and groups more or less to keep to themselves. That offends us today, but that's how it was, and feelings between groups can't simply be reduced to hatred.
Naw... not even close.
Being wrong does not, by itself, make you "crazy".
Refusing to acknowledge, understand and deal honestly with facts that contradict you -- that does make you crazy, dishonest and a propagandist of the worst sort.
And that's your problem DL, you refuse to even acknowledge facts that don't support your own anti-American narratives, much less do you deal honestly with them.
It's why other posters get upset with.
You should think that over.