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Today’s Election Interference Isn’t The First Time The FBI’s Been Out Of Control
American Thinker ^ | 9 Jul, 2023 | Mark Adams

Posted on 07/09/2023 4:53:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Thirty years ago, a dangerously reckless FBI went to war against the Branch Davidians.

We’ve recently learned a great deal about the FBI’s election interference by hiding the truth about Hunter’s laptop, as well as its illegal persecution of Donald Trump. Sadly, this isn’t the first time the FBI’s gotten recklessly out of control.

On February 28, 1993, more than 70 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (“BATF”) agents, with help from three military helicopters, launched an attack on the Branch Davidians, an offshoot sect of Seventh-Day Adventism, operating under David Koresh’s leadership. The attack took place at the Davidians’ sprawling residence called Mount Carmel, in Waco, Texas.

The attack was spurred by allegations that Koresh and his followers had illegally converted semi-automatic rifles to full-automatic capacity and that nothing short of a massive military-style raid would make it possible to arrest David Koresh and properly search the residence. To build the public case, the government alleged that the Davidians were a child-molesting cult.

The BATF agents botched the raid. The result was that several were killed, and the remainder were forced into a humiliating retreat and ultimate surrender. According to one writer, the real reason for the raid was that the BATF “saw the Branch Davidians…as the perfect patsies for a high-profile raid that would make G-men look like heroes.”

After the ATF debacle, the FBI was called in to deal with the mess. The FBI’s involvement ultimately ended in a fiery inferno. The FBI caused much of the main building to collapse on the Davidians, leaving 76 burned corpses buried in the smoldering rubble.

A lot of people know that story. What few people know is that Joe Biden was a major player, and that’s true despite a criminal trial, two cabinet-level inquiries, and three sets of congressional...

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1 posted on 07/09/2023 4:53:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Just part of the leftist war against Christianity that now has the FIB planting informants inside churches. Not surprised that Pedo Joe was involved in the coverup.


2 posted on 07/09/2023 4:54:15 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Jury forewoman Sarah Bain bemoaned: “We spoke in the jury room about the fact that the wrong people were on trial, that it should have been the ones who planned the raid and orchestrated it and insisted on carrying out the plan who should have been on trial.” (Emphasis added.)
3 posted on 07/09/2023 4:58:22 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

The FBI and likely CIA should be dissolved.

Let the army take the responsibility over. There will be less life-long career people and it should be less politically controlled as it will run out of a general defense budget.

Ohh and on the branch Dravidian tragedy. There is a video out there, I’ve seen it, that shows a bunch of FBI agents talking to a group of patriots who came to watch the standoff. It was shameful the we versus you (meaning civilians) attitude they were displaying. Insulting the patriots, making gestures and veiled threats. You could clearly tell they thought they were superior and at conflict with civilians.

I might even be able to find it again…


4 posted on 07/09/2023 5:07:30 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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“… Ohh and on the branch Dravidian tragedy. There is a video out there, I’ve seen it, that shows a bunch of FBI agents talking to a group of patriots who came to watch the standoff. It was shameful the we versus you (meaning civilians) attitude they were displaying. Insulting the patriots, making gestures and veiled threats. You could clearly tell they thought they were superior and at conflict with civilians.

I might even be able to find it again…”
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The same thing happened at the siege at Ruby Ridge.


5 posted on 07/09/2023 5:14:27 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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To: House Atreides

America has allowed evil to flourish as an enemy within.
These agencies need to be dissolved and the staff not rehired in any similar capacity. There will need to be some assumption of functions deemed necessary but with a limited mandate & oversight. I was otherwise occupied during the time of this tragedy and I am appalled to learn what was done.


6 posted on 07/09/2023 5:19:36 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: House Atreides

Shortly after she was sworn into the role of Attorney General, Janet Reno became embroiled in controversy over the deadly raid she ordered following a standoff between the Branch Davidians, a religious sect, and federal agents at the sect’s compound near Waco, Texas.

The standoff, which began on Feb. 28 1993, before Reno became Attorney General, was sparked when U.S. agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms made a surprise raid on the compound, trying to execute a search warrant. Gunfire erupted during the raid, and four agents and six members of the religious sect perished.

That led to a 51-day standoff, which ended on April 19 1993, when Reno approved a raid on the compound using tear gas. During the raid, a fire broke out and the complex burned to the ground, killing around 80 people including the sect’s American leader, David Koresh. Later that day, Reno took full blame of the incident, telling television cameras “I’m accountable. The buck stops with me.”

But other than a loud outcry at those draconian actions, Janet Reno never suffered much in the way of consequences, and died in her sleep in her own bed years later. Should have died in prison, but the later impeachment of Bill Clinton was badly impaired for failing to indict him for the REAL criminality he inflicted upon America.


7 posted on 07/09/2023 5:28:46 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: MtnClimber

What I find the most ominous is that it doesn’t matter which party is “in power,” all these agencies are getting away with their rogue activities. Everything that happened in the 2018 and 2020 elections was done while a Republican was “controlling” these agencies. As we have learned and are continuing to learn, way to many of the people that DJT selected to help “cleanout the swamp,” we’re, in fact, part of the swamp - and continue to be part of the swamp today.

We thought we were going to start seeing some accountability with the likes of Jordan and Comer. Turns out, even if we have the right people going after the corruption, the time is on the side of the corrupt. All the corrupt have to do is delay until the next election.

Tried and true method of continuing the corruption . . .


8 posted on 07/09/2023 5:29:35 AM PDT by MCSETots
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Though the story about boiling a frog live is a myth...

the FACT is that,

the U.S. did become victim to the boiling frog story for REAL.

Democrats undertook the mission to convert the U.S. into a totalitarian government, little by little.

Their mission was to take over public sectors, such as the education system, and the media. One can say that both of those missions were accomplished to a great extent. Democrats ‘own’ the education system, and they control most of the media.

They also took on the mission of controlling major government agencis, such as the DOJ and FBI and CDC and FDA and DHS; you name it, democrats control how it works and who works it. The control them. The FBI and DOJ are working for the progressives in the country.

Democrats have even managed to ‘demonize’ religion, where they denounce just about any religious leader and any religious organization, if they dare speak evil of any policies democrats want to undertake.

Democrats have been trying forever to turn the Supreme court into a wholly owned democrat institution. They’re demonizing all of the recent court decisions which didn’t turn their way, and are making SCOTUS a major issue in the next election.

Democrats have also managed to ‘win’ elections which most people felt they would lose, including the 2020 presidency. Democrats somehow managed to hold off the expected avalanche win by republicans in 2022.

If democrats manage to undo the conservative control of SCOTUS, and somehow get full control of congress and also keep the White House, then, we can expect that the U.s. will be done for. We won’t recover from the missions that democrats undertook decades ago to get full control of the U.S..


9 posted on 07/09/2023 5:33:15 AM PDT by adorno
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“we’re, in fact, part of the swamp”

Or, perhaps intimidated or black mailed by the swamp? The people the swamp went after were not swamp. The whistle blowers are not swamp. and the handful of people standing up are not swamp. We The People are not swamp.


10 posted on 07/09/2023 5:36:39 AM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: MtnClimber

I’m old enough to remember when the FBI actually went after scum of the earth criminals and underworld figures. But that was when America was still America and before they became the street muscle for democrat party.


11 posted on 07/09/2023 6:02:47 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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It was pretty obvious that Janet Reno was selected because she was a woman. Hillary , had likely demanded that Bill appoint a woman because he owed her due to her loyalty to him ( recall the stand by your man 60 minutes interview). Hillary saved his candidacy and her future aspirations.

Bill dutifully capitulated and selected a woman, then another and then a third: Janet Reno.

One of the first two failed due to issues with hiring illegal aliens, I believe that was Zoey Baird. I do not recall the name of the second one, but the real point is; Janet Reno was near the bottom of the barrel and held the position of worst AG for many years. That position was then taken by Eric Holder, and is now held by the embittered Merrick Garland.

12 posted on 07/09/2023 6:03:30 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ( Biden-Fetterman in ‘24: It's a no brainer)
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To: alloysteel

Yeah the ATF cowboys got shot up and they took revenge. I hope to live until I see these jackbooted thugs get what they deserve.


13 posted on 07/09/2023 6:05:50 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Bonemaker

I now consider the FBI the henchmen of Gyorgy Schwartz, the puppet master of the KKKommiecrat party.


14 posted on 07/09/2023 6:06:06 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Michael.SF.

Kimba Wood was the other one and had a similar issue. Nannygate’ became the term for those failures.


15 posted on 07/09/2023 6:08:11 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ( Biden-Fetterman in ‘24: It's a no brainer)
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To: Bonemaker

The FBI became the scum. What better way to break the law than to be the law.


16 posted on 07/09/2023 6:10:23 AM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: MtnClimber

We need Trump in office to clean up this mess!


17 posted on 07/09/2023 6:14:31 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: MtnClimber

The FIB is not the ATF. They despise the ATF, and with good reason, though they themselves are despicable. Branch Davidians were not a conventional church, either, but a wacked-out cult. Spoke to one of the agents who was there, and he said that he had not encountered that much firepower since Khe Sanh. It was a case of the trigger-happy cowboys raiding the trigger-happy nuts.


18 posted on 07/09/2023 6:15:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: MtnClimber

In 1972, a President was elected with 520 electoral votes,61% of the popular vote, and 49 states.

Within 2 years, an FBI-led conspiracy assisted by the Uniparty, the CIA, and other unknown actors drove him from office and replaced him with a Deep State tool.

Just imagine if we knew as much about “Watergate” as we have come to know about Crossfire Hurricane.

Everything you know about Watergate is wrong.


19 posted on 07/09/2023 6:23:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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Watergate was a HUGE nothingburger compared to what was done in Russiagate!! YET not one stinking consequence for anyone involved NOT ONE!! RUSSIAGATE will NEVER go down in history as Watergate has, YET what they did was much worse, all will be swept away and forgotten NEVER being historic as it should be!!


20 posted on 07/09/2023 6:35:03 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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