Proposed law

Self | 7/7/2023 | Paul Rivers

[spacewarp]

I'm going to propose a law be presented to Congress and wanted to run it by my Freeper friends before I do. You guys know what you're talking about and can clean it up before I send it in to every member of Congress.

Presented for your thoughts:

1) Any business that employs an illegal alien will be fined at a rate of $5000 per day per illegal alien employed. After the first review and an alien is found, they have 3 days to rectify the situation. After that, the fines will be implemented. The fines are equivalent to the cost to American taxpayers for illegal aliens for the last 30 years. 2) Any illegal alien who wishes to depart to their country of origin or to another country that will take them as a refugee can apply to be transported and the fees for transport will be deducted from the fines from part 1. 3) Legal immigration for legal immigrants will be doubled. Additional BP agents will be hired to process the additional influx. 4) 30 days from passage of this law, anyone found to be in the country illegally will be permanently banned from citizenship or a Visa from the United States. 5) Anyone caught smuggling anyone into the United States will have committed a federal capitol crime, and shall receive the death penalty, unless willing to provide information to the detention, arrest and execution of the leaders of the groups founded to do so. 6) Any NGO that supports, aides or provides services to illegal aliens will no longer have access to tax exempt status. 7) Any individual or organization who has in the past 3 years or any future time made donations to said NGOs or any new NGOs of over $1 million shall be required to forfeit all assets. If they are duel citizens with any other country, they immediately lose US citizenship. 8) Any federal official caught violating these laws will face removal from their position and prosecution for treason. If the federal official is subject to impeachment proceedings, the violation of this law would be considered a high crime, and thus direct violation of their oath of office. 9) As soon as physically possible, a wall will be constructed with depth sensors, technological support and underground protection from tunneling and other penetration means. 10) Lawsuits to stop the implementation of this law, when failed, will be considered an act of treason. 11) Anyone caught providing monetary or physical gifts of support to any member of congress (formerly called lobbying) will be prosecuted for attempted bribery and the Congressperson is eligible for removal and prosecution if bribes are received.

[spacewarp]

Any ideas on this would be welcomed and would help.

[dforest]

I am all for it but then try to get that through the swamp. LOL

[Tell It Right]

My thoughts:

3) Legal immigration for legal immigrants will be doubled.
No. We already have 20% of the world's migrant population, even though we're 5% of the world's total population. Even legal migration needs to be scaled down until our total migrant population as a percentage of the whole is no more than our 5% of the world's population.

9) As soon as physically possible, a wall will be constructed...
Nice. But add to it that the total spending can be at least as much as we've spent pretending to protect Ukraine's borders.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Citizenship verification laws already exist. They are ignored and have been for decades. As a hiring manage long ago, I was required to collect much info and documentation for any new hire. These requirements are no longer adhered to. The IRS had their forms and other agencies had theirs.

[EQAndyBuzz]

That’s why we fill out I9 forms. Now, you can assess large fines for companies who fail to produce I9’s for all their employees and maybe even prison time.

[Brian Griffin]

“Any business that employs an illegal alien will be fined at a rate of $5000 per day per illegal alien employed.”

Have first $1000 in pay to be picked up at a USCIS contractor.

The contractor gets to keep the pay if the employee is ineligible.

Contractors would have to bid a monthly percentage of pay to get this right.

This provides a ‘safe harbor’ for employers. Employers merely send the initial paychecks to the contractor.

I should add that the law should never be so harsh that courts won’t enforce it. Fines cannot be excessive as per the US Constitution.

[Brian Griffin]

We need a constitutional ‘wall’ around our money in the form of permanent tax caps.

This constitutional ‘wall’ wouldn’t cost billions to build or maintain.

[notted]

Thank you for presenting your ideas, most people are very passive so I would not be too discouraged if you have few replies.

This website also has many infiltrators who will try and knock down anyone presumptuous enough to initiate change.

Unfortunately, I believe our country is no longer a nation of laws but of lawyers.

Writing law is a specialty, so serfs-to-be; like ourselves are all but marginalized.

I sincerely wish you luck, we need more people like yourself to be involved.

[spacewarp]

I know. I’ve been a Freeper for quite some time now. This was the only place to get any news during 9/11. Everyone was down, but FreeRepublic was working.

Thank you. I try to be involved, but it’s discouraging to see how far our country has fallen. 3 years under Biden, and I’m not sure we’ll survive a 4th.

[Political Junkie Too]

Much of this is already law.

See US Code Title 8 Part VIII §§ 1321 – 1330.

-PJ

[PAR35]

You probably need to characterize it as a civil penalty or perhaps a tax instead of a fine.

Second, maybe throw in a private right of action and individual standing to bring an action.

[atomic_dog]

Not strong enough. I have thought we should implement asset forfeiture for using illegal labor. In some cities if you go cruising for hookers they seize your car. So, if you knowingly use illegals they seize your business. Probably 2 or 3 well publicized forfeitures and the problem would dry up.

[ExGeeEye]

I wrote this several years ago.

*****

My Idea of Comprehensive Immigration Reform:

1. Illegal aliens are to be detained upon detection and deported within twenty-four hours.

2. Any citizen knowingly employing, sheltering, concealing, or otherwise assisting (other than emergency medical care) an illegal alien shall suffer forfeiture of all property, real and personal, all assets, businesses, business licenses, and any other thing except his/her physical freedom and two changes of clothing; after which he/she may seek employment and start over.

3. Any non-citizen legally resident, acting as described in para 2 above, shall suffer the same penalty and be deported to his/her country of origin within 48 hours.

4. Any public official, in any branch of government, at any level, who under color of clemency, legal discretion, or other official privilege, shall obstruct, alter, or modify the swift application and extent of paras 1-3 above to any degree soever, shall suffer the same penalty and be summarily removed from office.

(That’s to keep judges from saying “ooooo, that’s too harsh” and governors etc. from handing out pardons to business-owner buddies.)