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To: from occupied ga
I feel the EV concept is fundamentally flawed in that fossil fuels are burned to make mechanical work which is then used to generate electricity which then goes through a series of transformations to produce mechanical work that could have been done by burning the fossil fuel directly in the vehicle.

True that. But again this backs up the whole free market angle. In my case it makes sense to do the “inefficient” way with an EV because I have a large solar system at home to make us 80% energy independent, an independence that’s extended onto the road with the EV at least for local driving (including 200 mile round trip getaways). I can’t drill my own oil or natural gas, nor can I mine my own coal — if I could I would because those energy sources are better than solar. The best way to harness the one energy source I can harvest on my own is to be almost completely electric in my energy consumption. That’s important to me (and a small but growing number of conservatives like me who want to wean ourselves off of things government controls too much, including energy). But it’s evidently not important to you. A free market would let us each get what we want.

To be fair, I argue this more on an EV forum (mostly liberals) than I do among conservatives because the liberals are usually the ones trying to force others to do as they do (ban ICE cars and drive only EV’s). They need to hear more than conservatives the sermon to live and let live with no government interference. They speak with blanket generalizations and try to make every ICE car as horrible as a Yugo when they say ICE cars should be banned. When we argue back with our own generalizations we’re in effect falling for their trap and helping them create a polarized environment that can be settled only by making government bigger.

61 posted on 07/04/2023 10:49:59 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

How do you figure out you are 80% electricity independent? The panels are highly subsidized. I am sure you are selling electricity back to the grid during peak sunshine days, and then drawing if back at night. Without the selling of power when it is not needed, and the subsidies, what is the true amount of “Juice” you use? What is the true savings?


65 posted on 07/04/2023 2:07:02 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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