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OceanGate CEO Called Safety 'A Waste,' Suit Claimed Titan Sub Was Not Tested Properly
JALOPNIK ^ | 6/21 | Collin Woodard

Posted on 06/21/2023 6:41:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Jonty30

Apparently their was a need for investors...who generally expect something for their money in return. I understand the sub had gone down three other occasions. I would question the durability of the man made material it was made out of ....unlike most it wasn’t steel but an experimental concoction. Which is why banging the sides would be like banging a piece of wood - not very loud - from what one professional said.


81 posted on 06/21/2023 7:50:33 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: quantim

If the capsule breached through the CF hull, the only thing they’ll ever find is the titanium endcaps. The CF hull would have powdered.


82 posted on 06/21/2023 7:51:38 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Logitech’s stock took a dive (no pun intended) “

I like Logitech stuff, I have never had a problem with it.

I use the free LMS server on my pi to send music around my house.

and I like their internet connected media players too.

Very doubtful in my opinion that they are responsible in any way for this implosion.

I really don’t understand why all kinds of Tax money is being spent though.

you can buy insurance for stuff, and I have talked to people who did not pay for their fire department each year and had their house burn down. The fire department shows up to make sure the neighbors who paid do not get burned, but don’t do anything to stop the main fire.


83 posted on 06/21/2023 7:52:34 PM PDT by algore
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To: Jonty30

The rough deadline for when the air in the submersible will run out, based on the U.S. Coast Guard’s estimate, is 10am GMT (6am EST).


84 posted on 06/21/2023 7:53:52 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Jonty30

Was also committed to DEI - don’t hire or get rid orthe guys with years of experience and expertise in engineering. Hire the purple haired tranny art history major to supervise maintenance

Guess who they are calling now to mount a rescue/recovery. Probably named Rob or Larry vs Gaia..


85 posted on 06/21/2023 7:54:56 PM PDT by slapshot ( - Get woke go broke-)
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To: caww
Even the best tested equipment can go wrong....

Challenger was:

1) Using a new, poorly tested putty between segments on the SRBs ... because Save da Erf.

2) Launched significantly outside weather parameters. The ENGINEERS at Morton Thiokol said "Don't Launch". The MANAGERS at NASA said "Go for Launch", because they wanted to look good.

86 posted on 06/21/2023 7:56:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: caww

I kind of figures his hurry was due to finances in some way.
He’s an idiot and he’s taken 4 other lives.

I personally would have been happy to pay a couple hundred dollars to go 3,000 feet under the sea, knowing that I could get back home. I think there would have been a lot of business for that on the tropical islands and port cities.


87 posted on 06/21/2023 8:02:03 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: slapshot

White men never get enough credit for what they can do.


88 posted on 06/21/2023 8:02:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Jonty30

Well I’m not one who will step my foot in the ocean!.... I’m a dry land gal!

From what I’ve read they all were eager to go on this venture and knew even the weather wasn’t exactly ideal. Just a “window” of opportunity to take the dive.


89 posted on 06/21/2023 8:17:02 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: NorthMountain

This is kind of interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpHbkOp73A


90 posted on 06/21/2023 8:19:58 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Spktyr

“Go over to Sub Brief’s review of the current situation and check the comments - you can also Google those comments and find articles making similar comments well prior to this incident.”

I Google Sub Brief and found only videos and Twitter.

Did any actually know how the construction was performed?

It was alternating layers of axial and hoop strips performed by a professional company headed by a PHd with over 30 years of expertise. Finite analysis codes were used in the design.


91 posted on 06/21/2023 8:20:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: nickcarraway
According to [Stockton Rush's] claim, he learned the vessel was built to withstand a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate planned to take passengers to 4,000 meters.

At 4,000 meters there will be two tons of pressure pressing on each square inch of the carbon fiber hull.

Most likely the little vessel was crushed like a ping-pong ball run over by a Mac truck.

Engineering arrogance may have cost five human lives in this Quest to visit The Titanic.

92 posted on 06/21/2023 8:23:45 PM PDT by henbane ( Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.--Proverbs 4:23)
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To: Spktyr

“That’s the thing about carbon fiber. It looks fine to the naked eye one second and it disintegrates the next.”

My carbon fiber chin splitter has survived numerous collisions with concrete stops that would have deformed metal or cracked fiberglass.


93 posted on 06/21/2023 8:26:04 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: eyeamok

I’m wondering if they made it down there and bumped into the ship. That might have been the only impulse that an over-stressed hull needed to implode.


94 posted on 06/21/2023 8:28:40 PM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch)
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To: henbane

“At 4,000 meters there will be two tons of pressure pressing on each square inch of the carbon fiber hull.

Most likely the little vessel was crushed like a ping-pong ball run over by a Mac truck.

Engineering arrogance may have cost five human lives in this Quest to visit The Titanic.”

The hull was designed to withstand 2 1/2 times that pressure.


95 posted on 06/21/2023 8:29:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Clay Moore

“That might have been the only impulse that an over-stressed hull needed to implode.”

Why do you say it was over-stressed?


96 posted on 06/21/2023 8:30:57 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: caww

” based on the U.S. Coast Guard’s estimate,”

The CG has no idea. They are just using advertising info.


97 posted on 06/21/2023 8:34:08 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Jamestown1630
It is interesting.

I do agree with Mr. Rush in the sense that "we" have become excessively safety obsessed.

Beyond that, however, it's pretty clear to me that not only did Mr. Rush not know what he was doing as regards submarine design, construction, and legitimate safety issues ... he didn't have the common sense to hire people who were experts on those topics. Quite the opposite, in fact. He REFUSED to hire the very people who are experts. The whole enterprise was a disaster from the start.

"What could possibly go wrong?" is often asked in a snarky, snotty, and ignorant way in the popular culture. We see it on this forum entirely too often.

It is also a legitimate question, one which Mr. Rush should have had actual subject matter experts asking AND ANSWERING from the start of his program. He spectacularly failed to do this.

98 posted on 06/21/2023 8:35:52 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: caww

“unlike most it wasn’t steel but an experimental concoction”

Nope. Manufactured by a company with 30 years of experience with available products.


99 posted on 06/21/2023 8:36:02 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

SubBrief aka “Jive Turkey” was his original youtube channel.


100 posted on 06/21/2023 8:38:31 PM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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