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To: MortMan
There’s nothing unconstitutional about it, and if Massie claims it is then he is verifiably full of Schitt.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member. -- U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 5, Clause 2)

75 posted on 06/14/2023 2:19:24 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Alberta's Child
Massie is claiming it's unconstitutional: "The Constitution says the House may make its own rules but we can’t violate other (later) provisions of the Constitution. A $16 million fine is a violation of the 27th and 8th amendments."

(Which is a laughable statement in and of itself, given how much Congress violates the Constitution on a daily basis.)

If Massie were in front of me, I'd ask these questions:

1) Is levying a fine somehow beyond the scope of punishing Members for disorderly behaviour?

2) What definition of "excessive" are you using vis-a-vis the 8th Amendment with regards to the fine?

3) Would this hypothetical censure and fine of Schiff be considered a "law varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives" vis-a-vis the 27th Amendment?

147 posted on 06/14/2023 5:01:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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