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Stunning UFO crash retrieval allegations deemed ‘credible,’ ‘urgent’
The Hill ^ | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

Posted on 06/09/2023 4:39:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

According to explosive reporting, the powerful internal investigative body that oversees the nation’s intelligence agencies found a whistleblower’s claims of an illegal government UFO crash retrieval and exploitation effort to be “credible and urgent.” To eliminate potential ambiguity regarding such an extraordinary development, a knowledgeable source confirmed to me that the intelligence community inspector general found “allegations that there is a [UFO crash retrieval] program [to be] urgent and credible.”

Beyond this stunning revelation, the whistleblower — a former high-level intelligence official — is represented by a lawyer who served previously as the intelligence community’s first inspector general, a Senate-confirmed position. The managing partner of the law firm representing the whistleblower reportedly co-signed the complaint submitted to the current Intelligence Community inspector general. As noted in a legal analysis, no lawyer, let alone two high-caliber attorneys, would sign such an extraordinary document without “very credible source material.”

Importantly, current and former officials vouched for the whistleblower, David Grusch, while also corroborating the broad outlines of his allegations. Moreover, Grusch testified to Congress for hours, generating hundreds of pages of transcripts. Grusch also gave an exclusive interview to Ross Coulthart of NewsNation, which like The Hill is owned by Nexstar Media Group.

For their part, Grusch and other knowledgeable individuals who have spoken to investigators have little incentive to lie. “Knowingly and willfully making false statements” to the Intelligence Community Inspector General carries the risk of financial penalties and imprisonment. At the same time, two high-caliber attorneys appear unafraid of the potential legal jeopardy of filing Grusch’s complaint.

The facts enumerated above should, on their face, captivate every newsroom and living room in America. But there are reasons to be skeptical.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: davidgrusch; distraction; fringe; marikvonrennenkampff; ohsomysteriouso; squirrel; thehill; theshill; tuckercarlson; ufo; ufos
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To: RoosterRedux

42. If unsupported claims (where’s the beef) about UFOs being found are taken as the truth, then every claim against the Bidens must also be taken as the truth.

As we say in the legal field, like Clara Peller said about the size of a hamburger, show it to us, I. E the proof about any charges, claims, allegations, etc. The proof is out there on the Biden’s if documents and whistleblowers are to be trusted.

The Left believed Vindman’s crap about Trump and Ukraine, but ignored Biden’s open threats to withhold money for Ukraine unless they fired the Prosecutor looking into Burisma’s reportedly corruption, which included their payments to Hunter Biden for doing WHAT?

Show me the beef/proof, no matter who is concerned.


61 posted on 06/09/2023 7:11:50 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Sirius Lee

That was done by Stephan Spielberg. It was faked. I won’t believe that nonsense until I see one myself.


62 posted on 06/09/2023 7:17:45 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
The claims aren't unsupported. They are supported by circumstantial evidence (as opposed to direct evidence/proof).

It doesn't follow that all claims supported by circumstantial evidence should be treated alike.

It depends on the evidence.

For example, circumstantial evidence can be sufficient to convict one murderer but not another. It depends on the specific evidence and the specific claims, charges, and/or crime(s).

63 posted on 06/09/2023 7:20:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (See my FR homepage for a link to the entire Bible narrated by David Suchet on youtube. FREE!)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
First, we had real suicides of real people when the Orson Wells program about the invasion from Mars was played on the radio. Hundreds of people killed themselves. You can read about that.

People withing military ranks killed themselves when confronted with ETs and artifacts found during crash/retrieval operations.

I realize you are "one of those" who is unable to believe the aggregate of hundreds of credible eye witnesses, even some at very high levels in the government and military.

Please, as this unfolds, don't go nuts and kill yourself.

64 posted on 06/09/2023 7:25:03 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: BigFreakinToad

We might discover that the UFOs are somehow related to all of that. I don’t think the visitors are evil or harmful. Lord knows they’ve been here long enough to have cleaned our planet of all life. So, they are here for another reason, perhaps just to watch our civilization collapse all on its own.


65 posted on 06/09/2023 7:28:23 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: RoosterRedux

Either you have a piece/whole thing that is identified as an alien craft or you don’t.

Sightings are a different cat, especially if filmed by a reportedly reliable source, I.E. military aircraft films.

H.G. Wells “War of the Worlds” scared the crap out of many people because it sounded so real on the radio, but it wasn’t.

Even a Fox commentator today confused a fireball (meteor) with a flying saucer. There is no limit on gullibility and con-artists, or dupes and suckers.

Calling P. T. Barnum. You are back in vogue!


66 posted on 06/09/2023 7:33:36 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: GingisK
Regardless of intent, likely number one driving force is curiosity.

Although possible, I don't see an alien force bent on total destruction of life on earth.

67 posted on 06/09/2023 7:33:51 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: GingisK

PE: Probably wondering why we allow a potato to “lead” us.


68 posted on 06/09/2023 7:34:59 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: GingisK

as the old poster say “I want to believe”, but I really can’t.
Discovery of exoplanets nudged me over to believing again, but is that science even accurate.
I think God has other experiments running in other places, but the distance is to keep each from cross contaminating the other.


69 posted on 06/09/2023 7:36:30 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Biden whispered "Don't Jump")
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To: RoosterRedux

The UFO skeptics are the same clowns who insisted 40 years ago that there were no planets orbiting other stars.

About 100 years ago, their progenitors were screaming that man would never fly.

These people are simply one-dimensional thinkers who live like amebas, reacting mindlessly to external government stimuli.


70 posted on 06/09/2023 7:38:57 AM PDT by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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To: going hot
I don't see an alien force bent on total destruction of life on earth

Me either.

Many people who have supposedly been "taken" refer to the visitors as "Watchers". They get the idea that the ET was involved with the development of intelligent life on this planet. We are a pet project of theirs.

Different sources of information under differing circumstances indicate that the Greys are artificial constructions used to manipulate from afar. The intelligence behind them is not on the ship, perhaps not even in the Solar system.

There is a lot of interesting lore out there. It isn't possible to resolve truth from fiction, but the whole thing is fascinating. There IS something there. It isn't nothing. Now it seems those who know are slowly pushing the veil aside; apparently with the blessings of the keepers. It is also apparent that this will not go too fast in order that the stubbornly unaware don't go insane.

71 posted on 06/09/2023 7:44:39 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: going hot

;-D That just has to shake their notion of us being intelligent.


72 posted on 06/09/2023 7:45:29 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

I would certainly like to come face to face with one. After initial atrial fibrillation, and I did not get eaten or mind effed, the chance to communicate, to trade thought, would be overwhelming.


73 posted on 06/09/2023 7:52:26 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: going hot
Same for me. I wonder if they would talk with someone who would smell like that?

I've conversed with people who were "taken". They all told me that the terror of the moment is very extreme. Later on they don't have any fear or animosity toward them. None are very fond of the Greys; but, those appear to be remotely controlled manipulators.

74 posted on 06/09/2023 7:58:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Either you have a piece/whole thing that is identified as an alien craft or you don’t.

It comes down to the particular YOU, doesn't it? Maybe we can get Sandy Burger to go into that deep underground bunker and sneak something out without anyone noticing. We can give a tarp to thrown over something big.

75 posted on 06/09/2023 8:09:11 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

I would likely be strongly smelling of sweat , urine, feces in some combination.


76 posted on 06/09/2023 8:10:29 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I'm not saying that I know any more about this than you or that I am willing to accept what he his saying as the truth without proof.

I'm just observing.

But there is circumstantial evidence (which is why some in the media are willing to make a leap).

This guy claims they have not just one, but "numerous" intact craft.

His claims are based on what he has been told by military insiders in his position as representative of the National Reconnaissance Office to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force and as co-lead for UAP analysis at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) as its representative to the task force. As an aside, he helped draft the language for the National Defense Authorization Act of 2023 which included the establishment of the AARO and indemnification of government whistleblowers from their NDA's (when testifying before classified Congressional Committees on the subject of UFO's).

Here's a little more: [The] intelligence community inspector general found Grusch's “allegations that there is a [UFO crash retrieval] program [to be] urgent and credible.” (from the article above)

The problem with any proof is that it is classified for the obvious reasons.

Bottom line: Skeptics keep an open mind. A closed mind (bias) is a feature not of a skeptic but of a debunker.

Nothing wrong with being debunker, but a debunker isn't a skeptic.

77 posted on 06/09/2023 8:22:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (See my FR homepage for a link to the entire Bible narrated by David Suchet on youtube. FREE!)
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To: RoosterRedux
With today's camera technology that is able to read a license late from about 100 miles in space It seems very odd to me that there are no clear pictures of these so called UfOs.
78 posted on 06/09/2023 8:24:09 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: dearolddad

Show me one of those clear pictures of a license plate taken from a platform 100 miles in space.


79 posted on 06/09/2023 8:26:40 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: dearolddad
How do you know there are no clear pictures? Because the military hasn't released them?

That's what this appears to be all about...a wrestling match between those in the government/military who believe the public has a right to know and those who believe the public does NOT have such a right.

The person who is the subject of this article is speaking out...and the DOD and NASA are trying to shut him up.

80 posted on 06/09/2023 8:38:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (See my FR homepage for a link to the entire Bible narrated by David Suchet on youtube. FREE!)
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