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To: Kalamata; generally

>>and one more thing that makes me think the DeSantis announcement was part of the plan...
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I do not believe this.

There is a meme that lists many non-MAGA things he has said and done (PRIOR to running) that confirm to me that he is 100% RINO.

I do believe his conservative track record as Florida Governor is part of the DS strategy to deceive MAGA voters.

Below are some of the what Dong-Chan Lee wrote in his tweet (replying to @RobertELeedom and @Magnaminous:

“DeSantis was happy to see J6 prisoners rot in jail.

DeSantis supported regime change in Ukraine through supporting the Maidan Group.

DeSantis voted for TPP and supports free trade.

DeSantis praised Fauci in 2020 and never said a word about his connections to the Wuhan Lab when Trump was facing political jeopardy (it’s easy talking about it now, in hindsight)

DeSantis said Trump’s efforts to restore election integrity were pointless & should have conceded to Biden.

DeSantis is a big fat fraud.”

Mrs. K

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I’ve seen that meme list, and I was wondering about the sources. I am in limbo regarding this, as sources would verify these.


205 posted on 05/27/2023 10:31:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: little jeremiah

I think it is pretty simple.

If Trump endorses Ron for POTUS, I’ll vote for him.

Otherwise, I’m voting for Trump. Doesn’t matter if he is indicted, jailed, etc. If he’s running, I’m voting for him.

Also doesn’t matter what DeSanctus says or does, if Trump is running DeSanctus doesn’t get my vote.


216 posted on 05/27/2023 11:47:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: little jeremiah; Kalamata

1. I’m not asking anyone to believe that DeSantis is on the Trump team.

2. I’m not asking anyone to believe that DeSantis is Deep State.

3. I’m just putting out some ideas and opinions for people to consider and to make up their own minds.

>> DeSantis was happy to see J6 prisoners rot in jail.

What exactly does that mean? Was he dancing with glee? I doubt it. Or did he fail to do something to fix the problem? ... along with everyone else including Trump. I think there is a bigger play going on here.

>> DeSantis supported regime change in Ukraine through supporting the Maidan Group.

This is the first I’ve heard of the Maidan Group. I looked them up and found a company with 29 employees. Can’t tell what they do, but most of the names look middle eastern. Does DeSantis work for them? He’s not in the employee directory. What, if any, is his association.

Is regime change in Ukraine a bad thing?

>> DeSantis voted for TPP and supports free trade.

I don’t know enough about this to comment. But I will say that if this was a vote when he was in Congress, then for me it’s insufficient evidence. I believe that MANY people have used their votes as cover when needed. Example: If your party/conscience requires you to vote for something, but your constituents are against it and the vote is extremely lopsided so that your one vote won’t change the outcome, then many people will vote the “wrong” way in order to get re-elected. Or to maintain the cover of being a Dem / Repub / Deep State / whatever.

>> DeSantis praised Fauci in 2020 and never said a word about his connections to the Wuhan Lab when Trump was facing political jeopardy (it’s easy talking about it now, in hindsight)

Trump appointed Fauci. There is more at play here, IMO. If the play is to give F enough rope to hang himself, then it’s hard to tell who is part of the sting.

>> DeSantis said Trump’s efforts to restore election integrity were pointless & should have conceded to Biden.

I need more context to have an opinion on this. I also think that Pence is a white hat and part of the plan and people love to hate on Pence, so DeSantis could be playing a similar role.

Most of the claims against DeSantis are of the type “he thinks / likes / supports X”. It’s hard to really know what someone thinks or likes or supports. Especially if they are playing a role.

My biggest beef with DeSantis also applies to Trump. I hate that they were pro-vax. I’ve read arguments explaining that that was the lesser of two evils. Still a little difficult to wrap my head around, but I suspect there was much that we still don’t know or understand.

Again, this is all JUST MY OPINION. I would like to believe DeSantis is a white hat - so yes, cognitive bias. I’m willing to admit that he isn’t if the evidence is convincing, but so far I’m not convinced 100% in either direction. I continue to look (as objectively as I possibly can, admitting my biases) at arguments and evidence on both sides.

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The #1 thing I hate the most about the times we are living through is the deceit. BOTH sides are deceitful. The Deep State has been lying and deceiving us for decades, maybe centuries. I hate that the good guys - the people I THINK are the good guys - are now lying and deceiving us. Fighting fire with fire. The danger is that everything will burn down and nothing will be left.

Perhaps there was no other option for the good guys. I can understand that. It doesn’t mean I like it. After this is all over, IMO there needs to be full disclosure. I’m not interested in trading one group of liars for a different group of liars. Then we just start the process up again with “our” guys lying to us. It needs to stop.

/r

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262 posted on 05/27/2023 4:59:46 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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