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Why desantis has waited to declare he's running for president, and how he's committing campaign fraud.
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Posted on 05/21/2023 3:21:32 PM PDT by backpacker_c

Friends of ron desantis was a soft money pac created to seek donations and fund his re-election for governor.

This pac was also what desantis has planned on using, to illegally convert and use to fund his run for president.

FEC campaign laws say it is illegal to convert state level campaign donations to use in federal offices, and regulations concerning limits and fund raising for federal offices are stricter than many states.

desantis appears to have deliberately lied and hidden his intent to run for president, and delayed any announcement, in part to avoid FEC campaign laws regarding running for federal office/president.


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KEYWORDS: 1fakenews; bs; desantis; desantisbashing; donatedonaldtrump; donatetrump; falseaccusations; fec; friendsofrondesantis; illegaltransfer; lies; president; slander; stillosingby40pts; superpac
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

that’;s their problem of playing pretend and redefining words. the rest of us grown ups don’t have to agree to play along.

seems you want to.


101 posted on 05/21/2023 8:06:53 PM PDT by b4me
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To: backpacker_c

And not many are judging DeSantis by the criteria you are using. so there’s that. If you want to judge based on those criteria, go for it. Others are not viewing him the same way.


102 posted on 05/21/2023 8:09:54 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: FreeReign

“In both cases?”

Unless I missed something somewhere, there is no “both cases. Pure speculation and/or an accusation of something that hasn’t happened is not a “case”. Also, you are aware that the radical left uses that “it appears...” BS a lot against the GOP and against Trump, right?

“”desantis appears to have deliberately lied and hidden his intent to run for president, and delayed any announcement, in part to avoid FEC campaign laws regarding running for federal office/president.””


103 posted on 05/21/2023 8:18:23 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: napscoordinator

Ron aint a winner, he got punted over the goal post by Trump. Ron can’t even grow numbers inFL for a national election and you think he is good? Any “good” he’s done in FL is for show/hopes of votes for his looney pretend presidential run.

You know he will be a back stabber like the rest of recent Repub presidents excluding Trump. Trump wasn’t great but he truly did a lot of good and that’s why Ron and his pals accept his help then turn on him. liars, cheats.

winning isn’t winning if it destroys the country even more. What has Ron truly built (not just signed a paper) other than his swelled sense of himself and hopes for money as he follows what he is told to do?


104 posted on 05/21/2023 8:18:26 PM PDT by b4me
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To: backpacker_c

“His actions with the campaign funds is clearly illegal, and what he hopes to do, is get a deadlock with the FEC, so he gets to spend the $85-100 million for his presidential run.”

Looks to me like you’re accusing DeSantis of something he hasn’t done yet. Way to go re: treating DeSantis exactly like the left has and still is treating Trump. Ironic, to say the least.


105 posted on 05/21/2023 8:23:09 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It's not my criteria, it's the FEC and mccain feingold, as can see if they read through the linked articles and information.

And it's not comments from desantis supporters, who seem to say desantis can do no wrong, and Trump can do no right.

Besides, if desantis could legally use the money in friends of ron desantis pac, for his presidential run, nothing would have needed to be changed with the pac, right?

106 posted on 05/21/2023 8:27:36 PM PDT by backpacker_c ( )
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To: b4me

Oh stop. Trump didn’t do crap for DeSantis in 2022 when he won by 20 points. Trump is so jealous of DeSantis it isn’t even funny. Trump is so immature.


107 posted on 05/21/2023 8:34:05 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: backpacker_c

Then we can say, you are using certain chosen criteria, to highlight certain points.

You are not giving us a complete analysis of the record of Trump and DeSantis, and comparing and contrasting the candidates. You are using only certain selected criteria to make a point.

You are choosing to highlight these criteria. You are saying these criteria are very important.

I don’t know all the ins and outs of campaign finance law. So I can’t comment on the laws you say were broken. I’m just saying there is not broad discussion of any of this, and very few people are using these criteria to reject DeSantis, as you appear to be.

If you want to discuss those matters, go ahead. That’s what this site is all about. Make your case and see if others agree. Go for it.


108 posted on 05/21/2023 8:35:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Danie_2023
Everything up to the actual transfer of funds to be used in desantis' presidential run has already happened.

And the final transfer is already planned, as spokemen for the desantis superpac, neverbackdown has said and been reported -

A spokeswoman for the super PAC declined to suggest a budget for the Iowa operation. But Never Back Down has raised more than $30 million, and DeSantis has more than $80 million in his gubernatorial campaign account that is expected to be transferred into the super PAC.


109 posted on 05/21/2023 8:38:41 PM PDT by backpacker_c ( )
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To: Just mythoughts

Trump thought he was king and nobody in America wants a king which is why he lost so poorly especially with electoral college. Had he shut his mouth and worked hard instead of spending 20 hours on Twitter, he’d been reelected. Had he taken Covid a little seriously, he been reelected. Had he stopped wasting time on stupid inauguration numbers which nobody on earth cared about but him and his obsession for at least 100 days in his single term. He’d be reelected. Had he shut up about john McCain two years after his death a month before election. He may have won. He’s his worst enemy!!!


110 posted on 05/21/2023 8:41:06 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: backpacker_c

“Everything up to the actual transfer of funds to be used in desantis’ presidential run has already happened.
And the final transfer is already planned, as spokemen for the desantis superpac, neverbackdown has said and been reported.”

Ok. I know this probably sounds like a silly idea...but...

what if everyone just waited until the “actual transfer of funds” is made before jumping to accuse DeSantis of something illegal? I know. Crazy talk, right?


111 posted on 05/21/2023 8:42:06 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: backpacker_c
must have missed the url

A spokeswoman for the super PAC declined to suggest a budget for the Iowa operation. But Never Back Down has raised more than $30 million, and DeSantis has more than $80 million in his gubernatorial campaign account that is expected to be transferred into the super PAC.

DeSantis super PAC tackles tricky task of organizing support for him in Iowa without the candidate

112 posted on 05/21/2023 8:43:16 PM PDT by backpacker_c ( )
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To: Hildy

When Trump is your religion, Desantis must be the enemy. Simple as that.


113 posted on 05/21/2023 8:46:18 PM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: Danie_2023; Dilbert San Diego
People should note it's useless to discuss things with these desantis supporter, because they revert to the tactics leftist tend to use.

When confronted, and unable to provide and arguement, they

lie, mis-direct, and go off on tangents

start moving goal post

then they start doing personal attacks.

114 posted on 05/21/2023 8:49:24 PM PDT by backpacker_c ( )
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To: backpacker_c

B.S. Pure and unadulterated.


115 posted on 05/21/2023 9:06:02 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: napscoordinator
Your ‘analysis’ is weighted in dark bias.. Well, let us not ignore allllll the evil players... Lying Ryan who will never be president, attempted to get the six pence to dump President Trump before the election... The devils at so called ‘conservative’ Foxes took their turn in attempting to stop Trump ...

and then the rejects threw a ‘pussy hat fit on inaguration thanks to the devil Bush for releasing a tape when the man Donald Trump accurately describes some women who throw themselves at ‘rich’ celebrities... I read every day right here on FR about these women ... The man Trump did NOT lie ... but then the many are the liars and cannot handle truth.

Problem is you holier than thou are no better and none of you would give up your paycheck to do squat... IF President thought himself a king he would have gone Samson on the freaks attempting to destroy him...

Lord McCain was an evil corrupt heap and so is his second wife and privileged daughter... IF Lord McCain cared about this nation and humanity other than himself there would not be a bloody mess going on in the Ukraine ... where the ‘godfather’ president bribed and his drug addled offspring was set up in an energy company ... and these freaks in of government brought impeachment charges ...

I find you and the rest of the unholy saint desantis crew worthy of every deed godfather Biden is bringing down upon this nation... may you all reap what has been sown. Mueller, Mueller, Mueller .... rot in hell

116 posted on 05/21/2023 9:09:10 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Just mythoughts

Regardless he is not sitting in the seat of power. He’s keeps droning on blaming others. Where has that gotten him? He made tons of money as president. He was still operating his golf courses overseas no less. A hotel right next door to the White House where convenient for his VIPs to stay. Oh he was guilted out of the 400K when it was found out he didn’t donate the money or forgot. Then made a big spectacle for a quarter.


117 posted on 05/21/2023 9:13:52 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Rummyfan

I’m with you. These folks are wasting time and energy bashing DeSantis, when Biden and his cartel are the real enemies.

Why are they so afraid of Ron DeSantis, who is a good Christian conservative, exactly the kind of man FR has supported in former elections?

Why the sudden change in values?

Trump’s internal polls must reveal the real challenges that DeSantis poses to him.

Trump wants no competition. He wants a Coronation.

Sorry, Trumpeteers, this is theU.S.A., and THAT will never happen.


118 posted on 05/21/2023 9:13:55 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: napscoordinator
I am sure you will keep track of every nickel and dime saint Desantis begs and borrows... right? We will have to keep him honest now that the god of the Foxes has adopted him...
119 posted on 05/21/2023 9:16:15 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: RightFighter

This whole Trump-backed campaign against DeSantis gets more vicious every day.

It reeks of Roger Stone and his Merry Band of Dirty Tricksters.

It is turning many sincere, good-hearted folks away from Trump, and is highly counterproductive.


120 posted on 05/21/2023 9:19:36 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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