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This is what 2.5 tons of Ammonium Nitrate plus some other stuff will get you.

No it won't. There were explosives INSIDE the Murrah Building.

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numberonepal wrote:

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This is what 2.5 tons of Ammonium Nitrate plus some other stuff will get you.
No it won’t. There were explosives INSIDE the Murrah Building.
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Yep, see brigadier general Benton k. Partin’s analysis.

https://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/bomb361.htm

Pinging the conglomerate list - freepmail to get on/off) Not looking good for Ukraine.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/where-is-zaluzhny-ukrainian-commander-chief-is-mia/

Where Is Zaluzhny? Ukrainian Commander-In-Chief Is MIA and Hasn’t Been Seen in Weeks – Russian Sources Suggest He May Have Been Injured in Bombardment – Kiev Without Its Main General Ahead of Hyped Counteroffensive

By Paul Serran

A big mystery is unfolding right now in the Ukraine war: where the hell is Valeri Zaluzhny? The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Army hasn’t been seen in weeks, fueling speculations into his whereabouts and the reason for his sudden disappearance.

The rumors started in Russian Telegram channels, but now news outlet RIA Novosti also reported on it, referencing a viral message from the hacker group ‘Joker DPR’:

“General Zaluzhny was seriously wounded in early May during a missile attack on the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Pavlograd, Dnepropetrovsk region. Several severe surgical operations were carried out after which, if he survives, he will definitely not be able to adequately manage the army.

The Western masters forbade the Ukrainian clowns to talk about this, so that it would not affect the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers before the offensive, because he enjoys undeniable authority and love among soldiers and officers. Everyone understands that without him there is no chance of success for the Ukrainian army at all, and any offensive will be a mass suicide.

[…] I want to warn the Ukrainian soldiers that if you have to quickly change something in the offensive operation, then it will be done by some kind of down, or, even worse, Zelensky the clown. […] Zaluzhny, as a military commander can be written off.”

Initially, old pictures of the General in Cyprus surfaced, suggesting he was on vacation in the middle of the buildup to the hyped upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive.

But some significant “coincidences” also arose that may shed some light into the fate of Ukraine’s top commander:

The Head of the Dnepropetrovsk administration confirms an ‘Iskander’ missile strike on the SBU’s advanced headquarters in the city of Pavlograd on May 8.
Also on May 8: Alina Slobodyanyuk, employee of Ukrainian National Military Medical Clinical Center, reports of an ‘important person’ with serious injuries being admitted to their hospital.
Some sources presume that this person is Zaluzhny.

[more at link]

This is what 2.5 tons of Ammonium Nitrate plus some other stuff will get you.

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No it won’t. There were explosives INSIDE the Murrah Building.

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I attended a presentation by Retired Air Force Benton Partin who stated and provided evidence that that statement is exactly true. His credentials? His own words, “I’m the chief USAF expert of explosive weaponry.” Below is an excerpt of his bio that specifically deals with the development of weapons for the USAF.

In September 1955 he was assigned to the Ballistics Research Laboratories, Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Md. There, as an interservice exchange project engineer, he worked on a variety of armament projects; primarily on warhead and fuse developments for both Air Force and Army missiles.

In July 1957 General Partin was assigned to the Air Weapons Directorate, Headquarters Air Research and Development Command, Baltimore, Md.

He later moved with the command headquarters to Andrews Air Force Base, Md., where he was the assistant for advanced weapons concepts. During this assignment, he served as technical secretary to the Weapons Committee and Joint Committee on Limited Warfare in the 1958 Woods Hole Summer Study

He was assigned in March 1964 to the Deputy Chief of Staff, Research and Development, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, with duty as a staff development engineer in the Directorate of Development.

He participated in the establishment of the Armament Systems Division and formulation of the accelerated ordnance program. He also served as a tactical systems development plans officer in the Directorate of Development Plans.

In March 1968 he was named director, Tactical Analysis at Headquarters Seventh Air Force.

In January 1969 General Partin was assigned special duty in the Office of the Secretary of Defense as the first Chairman of the Department of Defense Air Munition Requirements and Development Committee. With organizational changes in OSD in 1970, additional responsibilities were assigned to him as assistant for aircraft and air ordnance in the Office of the Assistant Director, Land Warfare.

General Partin was transferred to Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., in June 1970, where he served as commander of the Air Force Armament Laboratory. He was assigned in June 1972 as deputy director, Development and Acquisition, Deputy Chief of Staff, Research and Development, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. He assumed his present position as deputy for systems, Aeronautical Systems Division, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, in July 1975.

He is a command pilot and wears the Missileman Badge. His military decorations and awards include the Legion of Merit with oak leaf cluster and the Air Force Commendation Medal.

There were explosives INSIDE the Murrah Building.

There may have been explosives inside the Murrah Building, but IMO it was the truck bomb that brought it down.

This crater was "outside" the building. It it a lot deeper than it looks here, still filled with debris. I stood in it..

This image shows that the hole was almost 7' deep through 11" of asphalt and 7" of concrete.

You can see the position of the crater relative to the damage.

The forces of the truck bomb lifted the front of the building off the ground and when it came back down, the concrete upper support beam broke and brought the front of the building down with it. We're just talking about damage to the MB. The damage to a significant portion of downtown is another story.

IMO there may have been other "forces" involved in the bombing, but I'm pretty sure it was the truck bomb that caused most, if not all of the Murrah Building damage.

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