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Stained glass window shows Jesus Christ with dark skin, stirring questions about race in New England
Associated Press ^ | May 14, 2023 | Mark Pratt

Posted on 05/14/2023 11:24:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A nearly 150-year-old stained-glass church window that depicts a dark-skinned Jesus Christ interacting with women in New Testament scenes has stirred up questions about race, Rhode Island’s role in the slave trade and the place of women in 19th century New England society.

The window installed at the long-closed St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Warren in 1878 is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color that one expert has seen.

“This window is unique and highly unusual,” said Virginia Raguin, a professor of humanities emerita at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and an expert on the history of stained-glass art. “I have never seen this iconography for that time.”

The 12-foot tall, 5-foot wide (3.7 meters by 1.5 meters) window depicts two biblical passages in which women, also painted with dark skin, appear as equals to Christ. One shows Christ in conversation with Martha and Mary, the sisters of Lazarus, from the Gospel of Luke. The other shows Christ speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well from the Gospel of John. […]

The window was commissioned by a Mary P. Carr in honor of two women, apparently her late aunts, whose names appear on the glass, (Hadley) Arnold said. Mrs. H. Gibbs and Mrs. R. B. DeWolf were sisters, and both married into families involved in the slave trade. The DeWolf family made a fortune as one of the nation’s leading slave-trading families; Gibbs married a sea captain who worked for the DeWolfs. Both women had been listed as donors to the American Colonization Society, founded to support the migration of freed slaves to Liberia in Africa. …

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TOPICS: Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: blackjesus; episcopalian; fakenews; rhodeisland
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To: Fai Mao

“Jesus probably looked like an Arab”

Probably looked Jewish.


61 posted on 05/14/2023 1:13:38 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Olog-hai

Because some dumb ass academic says so


62 posted on 05/14/2023 1:14:00 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Who would have guessed a Jew living out in the Judean desert would be dark skinned?

They didn’t have Coppertone back then.

5.56mm


63 posted on 05/14/2023 1:18:08 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, but you don't know what 33-year-old men really looked like back then, any more than you know what 969-year-old men looked like in Old Testament times.

64 posted on 05/14/2023 1:20:22 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Dr. Sivana

Madonna and child are depicted with tan complexions, which is what would be expected for people living in the Middle East, rather than as sub-Saharan Africans.


65 posted on 05/14/2023 1:22:51 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: Songcraft

They were fit enough to spend whole days net-fishing, so I doubt they looked wizened. Might have looked healthier than the Romans too.


66 posted on 05/14/2023 1:25:48 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

C’mon, everyone knows Christ was Nordic. He had blond hair, blue eyes, and perpetually red skin from sunburn. /s


67 posted on 05/14/2023 1:26:58 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe.   We just don't know.

68 posted on 05/14/2023 1:29:11 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Olog-hai
This line caught my eye:

The [ . . . ] window depicts two biblical passages in which women, also painted with dark skin, appear as equals to Christ.

The one pictured does no such thing. For starters, Our Lord has a serious halo. The Samaritan woman does not.
69 posted on 05/14/2023 1:32:40 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Olog-hai

Tolkien fan myself... And how I caught it. :)


70 posted on 05/14/2023 1:38:30 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Cleopatra was Greek. Egypt was conquered by Alexander the Great, and the ruling class thereafter was of Macedonian/Greek descent.


71 posted on 05/14/2023 1:39:28 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

That is SO FAMOUS. Isn’t it sometimes called the Black Madonna, or something like that? I’m aware of it from my years in Hudson County, NJ. Many, many Polish folks there.


72 posted on 05/14/2023 1:40:54 PM PDT by jocon307 (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“C’mon, everyone knows Christ was Nordic. He had blond hair, blue eyes, and perpetually red skin from sunburn.”

And runs his operation from Southern Georgia...


73 posted on 05/14/2023 1:41:09 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Olog-hai

It just dawned on me why you were saying what you did in response to my post #57.   I wasn't saying Jesus probably looked really old like Biden.   I was saying only a really, really old guy like Biden might know what Jesus looked like in person.   (I was, of course, being facetious.   Biden isn't over 2,000 years old, so he wouldn't really have been there to see Jesus in person either -- I don't think.)

74 posted on 05/14/2023 1:45:44 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: GOPJ

ROFL! Good post.


75 posted on 05/14/2023 2:14:38 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Luke was not a Mary idolator, was not a painter, nor was he going to fashion or make something in the image of Christ, nor would he have had paints and canvass that would have survived 2,000 years and have painted in a medieval form.

It's like the esteemed holy toenails of the Apostle John, which every other Catholic church in parts of the world may claim, except, John never had 2,000 toenails to have stolen from his grave, to be traded amongst a tribe of Catholic, to venerate.

Does that help?

76 posted on 05/14/2023 2:19:49 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Dutch Boy

Hahaha
Fact says Christ was an Israeli.
Logic says most Israelis are Caucasian.

Unless they’re Ethiopian.


77 posted on 05/14/2023 2:39:47 PM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: Dutch Boy

Hahaha
Fact says Christ was an Israeli.
Logic says most Israelis are Caucasian.

Unless they’re Ethiopian.

Ever think the artisan was low on materials and substituted what he had on hand?


78 posted on 05/14/2023 2:42:33 PM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: himno hero

I did not know that. Interesting. I may need to revise my opinion.


79 posted on 05/14/2023 2:42:57 PM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Olog-hai

Rhode Island needs to realize the only reason it exists is for unflattering size comparisons to other places.


80 posted on 05/14/2023 2:45:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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