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To: daniel1212
Why would we need to posit that, apart from the original creation. Must God one act miraculously, versus using natural means He created?

I respect your position. It is actually the more-preferable explanation.

But these other jokesters here were implying (admittedly, no one came right out and honestly/explicitly stated it; instead, they just hinted at it) that the "discovery" of ringwoodite somehow "bolstered" the Story of the Deluge - as though, in view of an Almighty God, it needed bolstering.

Thus, I was trying to argue on their level / from their initial premises.

I concede that that may have been an unwise decision.

But the mere "discovery" of a mineral hundreds of km below the Earth's surface that, under certain circumstances (e.g.: application of enormous quantities of EXTRA energy), could theoretically yield the water which subsequently manifested as the "fountains of the deep" of the Bible - without addressing all of the necessary intermediate steps ("Where did that necessary EXTRA energy suddenly come from? How did the resultant water then make its way through hundreds of kms of Mantle to reach the Earth's surface? Did that water then later return to the layer of ringwoodite? Etc.") amounts to opening up a "can of worms" that actually creates more problems than it solves.

It's no "skin off my nose," but if someone wants to show up wearing a deerstalker cap, holding an oversized magnifying glass, and smoking a calabash pipe to smugly announce that the "discovery" of this mineral "solves" the riddle of the Story of the Deluge (in doing so, they are already implying that it is a riddle in need of solving), then they had better be prepared to exactly explain the entire chain of physical mechanisms.

It is NOT enough to simply proclaim, "Elementary, my dear Watson! It was the ringwoodite!" and then go home.

Regards,

91 posted on 05/08/2023 10:18:07 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
smugly announce that the "discovery" of this mineral "solves" the riddle of the Story of the Deluge (in doing so, they are already implying that it is a riddle in need of solving), then they had better be prepared to exactly explain the entire chain of physical mechanisms.

Indeed. This old news (2014) of "Huge Underground Ocean" Discovered Towards Earth's Core" in ringwoodite "When a rock with a lot of H2O moves from the transition zone to the lower mantle it needs to get rid of the H2O somehow, so it melts a little bit," Schmandt said. "This is called dehydration melting.” After the rock melts, the researchers say, the water becomes trapped in the transition zone, creating a reservoir" under great pressure is not opposed to conditions of the ancient earth of Noah' s day in which "In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. (Genesis 7:11)

103 posted on 05/09/2023 4:11:35 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: alexander_busek

bingo


105 posted on 05/09/2023 4:27:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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