Sounds like they are refusing to accept responsibility for their role in the daughter’s death from covid19.
The only thing I am interested in is whether there was a DNR order. It’s also not clear why the sister was the patient advocate and if it was the facility or the parents objecting.
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Several things going on here. None of them put the hospital personnel in a positive light.
I dealt with our hospital on the covid crap in February 2022. I’m not going into it, but if covid was involved here - which it was, I’ll give you 100 to 1 the blame lies on the hospital and their personnel.
That doctor writing the orders is evil
Something very vile happened to doctors during covid- They literally went from “Do no harm” to “Obey whatever they are told by the government” which resulted in 10’s of 1000’s of unnecessary deaths- Doctors came out spouting KNOWN misinformation- and medical journals did as well- Its a pretty friggin sad state of affairs!
Maybe I missed it. but why was the young woman in the hospital in the first place? There are many conditions that result in the shut down or wasting away of body organs. Perhaps this is what prompted the doctor to be so bold as to label her a DNR.
I would hate to have been one of the nurses who had to tell the family to their faces that; “No ma’am, we will not be using our critical care equipment to revive your daughter. Doctors orders.”
I heard the father recount the story of this on a radio interview.
The role of Jessica has to be better defined. Was she truly her advocate? and what were the terms of that role. Grace was 19...was the advocacy in effect??
I’m a frequent flier patient - I visit ER’s and am admitted to hospitals numerous times a year for various health issues and things like this keep me up at night. I’ve been in and out of health care as both patient and worker, and giving someone all of those meds while they have breathing difficulty is stupid, stupid, stupid. Hands-down. This coming from a pharmacy tech who has also been on all of those drugs at some point.
I have the knowledge to advocate for myself, and I told my husband that if I wind up with COVID in the hospital and docs want to push the FDA recommended treatments, send me to hospice. There they’ll give me whatever I want, and my docs know me well enough to go along with it.
The business with the DNR is mortifying. There needs to be a family approval of the order, from the POA or guardians, and not just a doctor who, for all we know, may be a eugenecist if he approved that diaphragm-paralyzing cocktail and then ordered that girl DNR.
Her sister may also be acting as the advocate because she’s familiar with care and routine, and the parents may not have wanted to go into the hospital of they were older and possibly unwell, worried about catching COVID. I advocated for a friend after his back surgery, and for my grandmother when my mom (POA) wasn’t available, but that was rare.
I get that the nurses were covering their asses - even if someone has, “I AM DNR” pinned to their shirt or tattoed on their body, that is enough in some areas to not act, especially if medical records and family can’t be located for whatever reason, or identity can’t be established. That wasn’t the case here, but with how things were during COVID chaos, I imagine they wanted to keep their jobs, and what the docs say at those hospitals goes. Politics and such. The lawsuit against the hospital and doctor is well-deserved.
It’s horrible that the DNR order was issued without the family’s consent! Evil!
This is a fraught subject, one that most people do not understand. There are some conditions that make the heart stop which are reversible some of the time with CPR and drugs. A heart attack is the king of these. Let’s score that 100 points.
Then there are conditions that are never reversible -decapitating injury, for example. Let’s score that a zero.
All the other medical conditions are on a sliding scale of reversibility. And all of them used to be “scored”, and an appropriate resusscitation priority assigned, by personal physicians.
Two big changes have taken personal physicians out of hospitals, and family members are now routinely asked, “what do you want”?
So now, the physician making the decisions doesn’t know the patient, and families don’t know him. This usually results in asking “What do you want done about CPR for a GI bleeder losing blood faster than it can be transfused?”, when the family is offered something (”what you want”) that cannot realistically be obtained.
The bottom line is taht people who can’t reasonably be expected to benefit from CPR should not get CPR, whatever anybody “wants”.
What the heck was this patient being treated for that she was given morphine? The cocktail of drugs she was given would seem to indicate treatment for severe agitation so why the morphine? I think the parents have a far better case for medical malpractice.