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To: RandFan
The people who are pushing DeSantis are not backing him because they want him to win the Presidency. They are backing him because they want a bitter and destructive primary fight that destroys both Trump and DeSantis.

DeSantis will lose to Trump for 2024, but he will damage Trump in the general election. Not as much as Trumps enemies want, because most people already have made their minds up against Trump, but maybe enough to throw the election.

In the process, DeSantis will destroy his chances for the presidency because Trump loyalists will never forgive him for sabotaging Trump in 2024.

Which is too bad, because these same Trump supporters see DeSantis as the guy to follow Trump in 2028.

The problem for DeSantis is that he probably sees 2024 as his time because the entire uni party Establishment is willing to give him tons of money and support to destroy Trump in 2024. They won't be so generous in 2028 because they really dislike DeSantis almost as much as they hate Trump, but they need him to challenge Trump in 2024 to take Trump out.

6 posted on 04/19/2023 11:33:10 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1

That’s why The New York Times got on board

It couldn’t be more obvious


7 posted on 04/19/2023 11:43:44 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: rdcbn1

Trump is doing a pretty good job of self-sabotage


12 posted on 04/20/2023 1:06:16 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: rdcbn1
That is exactly right.
19 posted on 04/20/2023 1:27:52 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: rdcbn1

That’s nonsense. It depends on how DeSantis runs, if he runs. If he runs in a crusade to destroy Trump then yes your assessment is correct. If he runs with the intent for the GOP to win in 2024 and make the case on why he’s the right person then no it won’t hurt Trump because all those people who voted for DeSantis are only going to be more fired up to vote to make sure the Dems don’t win in November 2024.

That’s why the real Trump supporters and those who want the GOP to win in 2024 do want DeSantis to run a clean campaign for the GOP nomination. The rest are obviously supporting the efforts of the Democrats.


24 posted on 04/20/2023 1:43:45 AM PDT by Degaston
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To: rdcbn1

Also, I suspect the Dems orchestrated DeSantis’ landslide gubernatorial victory in 2022 to advance him to the next level by sacrificing their pawn Crist. I’m not saying he wouldn’t have won without the Dem’s help, but the margin of his victory seems too good to be true.

So, by creating an illusion of invincibility, they’re baiting DeSantis and his supporters into a premature run for the presidency.

If he waits, he will be term limited out of office in 2025, and he will have plenty of time to organize for a serious run in 2028.


28 posted on 04/20/2023 2:47:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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To: rdcbn1

Re # 6: perfectly stated!


36 posted on 04/20/2023 3:20:29 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: rdcbn1

Trump has damaged her myself in the na uo am to the point he is unelectable. e of the base has had it with him let alone independents and moderates which are ne essay to win a national election. If Trump is the nominee say hello to Biden or Newsome for 4 years


42 posted on 04/20/2023 3:44:16 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: rdcbn1

Exactly.

DeSantis is being used by the left and he doesn’t even realize it. He is getting played hard. Trump is trying to do him (and all of us) a huge favor.


44 posted on 04/20/2023 3:44:57 AM PDT by sipow
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To: rdcbn1

Perfect analysis. Desantis is Cruzing himself.


58 posted on 04/20/2023 4:24:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rdcbn1

I think your analysis is right on the money. The bottom line is the GOPe doesn’t care who wins the White House as long as it isn’t Trump, and frankly not DeSantis either. If RDS were to get the GOP nomination Trump would probably mount an independent bid splitting the Republican vote and making it a clear victory for Biden. I think the GOPe will be happy with that scenario and are o doubt secretly hoping for that to happen.


97 posted on 04/20/2023 5:30:25 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: rdcbn1

No, the people who like DeSantis are those who actually want to win and are not addicted to losing for the third time with Donald Trump.


133 posted on 04/20/2023 7:40:33 AM PDT by hcmama
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