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To: thecodont

There is no miracle in a Catholic Church where they bring down Jesus to sacrifice him over and over


5 posted on 03/27/2023 10:52:59 PM PDT by roving (đź‘Ś)
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To: roving

The Catholic Church is God’s Church, created by and sustained by God. The Mass is a direct connection between mortal man and heaven. Jesus’s sacrifice and love for mankind is never ending. Forensic studies done on tissue from Eucharistic miracles where the wafer clearly changed form shows it is heart tissue under extreme stress, as what Jesus suffered in His passion. His Catholic church will remain until the end of time. No matter what misguided mortals may think.


7 posted on 03/28/2023 12:51:12 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: roving

Far from sacrificing Christ over and over, the one Sacrifice of Christ is made present through a sign that he showed to His Apostles(see—my Body is about to be Separated from my Blood—like this, something that He knew was about to happen) and then asked that his sacrificial offering for the forgiveness of sins and the establishment of a new and perfect covenant be re-presented as a way of “remembering” Him.


8 posted on 03/28/2023 12:57:34 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: roving

U r sadly not a Christian.


10 posted on 03/28/2023 1:40:54 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: roving
“There is no miracle in a Catholic Church where they bring down Jesus to sacrifice him over and over”

What an interesting statement. You s Jack Hibbs follower?

The great Padre PIO once said a Catholic Mass is only our chance to witness the birth of Christianity by witnessing Christ's passion.

How many person and or Christian faith could somehow bastardize that solemn realization of His life is not only not celebrating Jesus but condemning Him.

11 posted on 03/28/2023 1:48:48 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: roving
There is no miracle in a Catholic Church where they bring down Jesus to sacrifice him over and over

“Do this in memory of Me” is not a suggestion.

13 posted on 03/28/2023 2:44:01 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: roving

John 7:53: Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


15 posted on 03/28/2023 4:42:54 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: roving

If you’re going to attack Catholic theology then at least get the theology right.


17 posted on 03/28/2023 5:06:22 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: roving
Stop telling that lie. There is no Christian virtue called "lying about Catholics". Scripture says love rejoices in the truth.

Catholics do not "sacrifice Jesus over and over", and do not believe that they do, either.

This is not the first time you have been called out on this outright dirty lie.

20 posted on 03/28/2023 5:32:45 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: roving
There is no miracle in a Catholic Church where they bring down Jesus to sacrifice him over and over

Well, though you are close to the target yet your misunderstanding is found intolerable, perhaps being a result of derivative statements from such teachings as,

We, therefore, confess that the sacrifice of the Mass is one and the same sacrifice with that of the cross...That the holy sacrifice of the Mass, therefore, is not only a sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving, or a commemoration of the sacrifice of the cross; but also a sacrifice of propitiation, by which God is appeased and rendered propitious.. (The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Published by Command of Pope Pius the Fifth (New York: Christian Press, 1905), pp. 173-175).

1265. What is the Sacrifice of the Mass?...Christ, the eternal High Priest, in an unbloody way offers himself a most acceptable Victim to the eternal Father, as he did upon the Cross.

1269. How does the Mass re-present Calvary? The Mass re-presents Calvary by continuing Christ’s sacrifice of himself to his heavenly Father. In the Mass, no less than on Calvary, Jesus really offers his life to his heavenly Father.

1277. Does the Mass detract from the one, unique Sacrifice of the Cross? The Catechism of the Council of Trent: The Mass in no way detracts from the one, unique Sacrifice of the Cross because the Mass is the same Sacrifice as that of the Cross, to continue on earth until the end of time...The Mass, therefore, no less than the Cross, is expiatory for sins; but now the expiation is experienced by those for whom, on the Cross, the title of God’s mercy had been gained. (John Hardon, The Question and Answer Catholic Catechism (Garden: Image, 1981).

Thus technically "anew" does not mean again "in the historical sense:"

Of course, RC's are supposed to believe that while the incarnated body of Christ on earth was manifest and would scientifically test to be just as it appeared, in contrast to a Docetist-type christ whose appearance did not conform to what He materially was, yet they are to believe that the consecrated Eucharist is the actual crucified body and blood of Christ under the appearance of bread and wine (complete in each and every visible particle, regardless of appearance) though the hosts normally look, etc. and would scientifically test to be just as they appear; yet which bread and wine have ceased to actually exist since the crucified body and blood of Christ (as imagined) have "substantially" taken their place. That is, until the non-existent host begin to manifest corruption, decay (appearance now becoming critical), at which time the Eucharistic Christ also is no longer present in that location.

In contrast to a Docetist-type christ whose appearance did not conform to what He materially was, the NT emphasixes the actual manifestly incarnated nature of the true incarnated Christ, who nowhere appears as a inanimate object.

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested.. (1 John 1:1-2)
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. (1 John 5:6)
"And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." (Philippians 2:8)
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; (Hebrews 2:14)
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. (Hebrews 2:16).
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. (Hebrews 4:15)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. (Luke 24:39)
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. (John 20:27)
And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them. (Luke 24:42-43)

And the Holy Spirit only and always taught that that spiritual life was obtained by receiving the word of God, and never shows this was by actual physical ingestion of anything, and that one "lives by" (upon) God's word as well, having first by repentant faith in the gospel and then by effectually feeding upon the word of God and thus obeying it. For while the Lord's supper is nowhere referred to as spiritual food anywhere interpretive of John 6 (Acts thru Rev.), the word of God is what is taught as being spiritual nourishment, being that which is called "milk" and "meat" (1Co. 3:2; Heb. 5:13; 1Pt. 2:2) by which believers are "nourished" (1Tim. 4:6) and built up, and with the preaching of which being the primary active function of pastors, whereby they "fed the flock." (Acts 20:28,32) Thanks be to God

31 posted on 03/28/2023 7:12:34 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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