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1 posted on 03/27/2023 9:22:59 AM PDT by central_va
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Complete and utter b.s.

Anything that burns produces co2

And net zero is their whole excuse.

No diff if synthetic or not.

Strawmen aplenty in these nuts field.


28 posted on 03/27/2023 9:51:57 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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These Eurotrash idiots are going to need another war to get their minds right.


30 posted on 03/27/2023 10:03:10 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Just like the synthetic foods they want to force feed us, and it won’t be any better for our engines than fake food is for people.

They never learned from baby formula and hydrogenated vegetable oil.


31 posted on 03/27/2023 10:03:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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https://www.efuel-alliance.eu/efuels

It’s a reincarnation of Fischer–Tropsch used by Nazis to make fuel out of coal.

Given enough electricity it can be done by making hydrogen and reducing carbon dioxide to make hydrocarbons.

The electricity part is the hard one. Maybe put a lot of geothermal plants in Iceland?

Or if fusion could actually work on an industrial scale this would be viable.

And much less damaging to the environment than battery powered everything.


33 posted on 03/27/2023 10:11:09 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Energy resents being stored and will escape confinement whenever and wherever possible, often with disastrous consequences. That’s why fossil fuels are such a miracle. Because Nature already has taken energy created in the sun’s fusion reactor, snatched it out of the sky, buried it in the ground, and then in a process that takes millennia, transformed it into a (relatively) stable and easy to transport form that’s free to anyone possessed of the enterprise to dig it up.

Because of the efficiency inherent in sourcing your energy in a pre-packaged form (done at zero cost to you), you will never surpass its economy except through processes that create energy on a scale orders of magnitude greater than fossil fuels, and there’s nothing known to man that fits that bill except nuclear.

Fossil fuels, or nuclear. Anything else is a waste of time, money, and effort.


35 posted on 03/27/2023 10:34:22 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Lol They know no one wants battery crap that would kill companies like Ferrari and Lamborghini


38 posted on 03/27/2023 10:46:11 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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I’d always heard/read rumors/speculation that the Germans used synthetic fuels during WWII to keep their vehicles rolling. And that the Allies, supposedly, clamped down on the secret to keep the world dependent on bio-fuels.

So, if all that were true... Are TPTB finally relenting and letting the secret of cheap, synthetic fuels out by making them expensive and difficult to get in their brave new world? :-/


44 posted on 03/27/2023 10:57:46 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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They can make gasoline through chemical reactions with atmospheric CO2 and water. Vegetable oil used in diesel engines is a good candidate also. Just like Rudolf Diesel used peanut oil in his first engines.


45 posted on 03/27/2023 11:02:47 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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> wood alcohol?

Whatever is determined to be the most expensive and inconvenient. Because reasons.


49 posted on 03/27/2023 11:16:03 AM PDT by glorgau
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Bring back thunder road!!


50 posted on 03/27/2023 11:20:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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e-Fuel is euro-code word for hydrogen mixed with CO2 previously captured from the twos-here. Of course it is drastically inefficient but then it isn’t supposed to work well.


52 posted on 03/27/2023 2:07:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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Oil is as natural as trees.

It will take three gallons of fuel to produce 1 gallon but hey. It is government maffs so they will make up for it in volume.


57 posted on 03/27/2023 6:07:45 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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