Family Dollar Worker Arrested for Shooting Shoplifter Over 10 Times, Killing Him

New York Post ^ | March 26, 2023 | Stephanie Pagones

[nickcarraway]

An employee at a Family Dollar in Arizona was arrested for fatally shooting a shoplifter who slugged him in the face when the worker asked him to leave, reports said.

The employee, Kevin Salas Madrid, encountered the alleged serial shoplifter inside the Phoenix store near 68th Avenue and Indian School Road just before 8 p.m. Wednesday and warned the suspect to stop stealing and exit the dollar store, according to KTVK/KPHO.

The pair then began arguing when the shoplifter punched Madrid in the face, at which point the store worker pulled a gun and opened fire, the outlet reported. He allegedly shot the suspect 10 times and continued to unleash bullets even as the man was on the floor, FOX 10 Phoenix reported.

[hellinahandcart]

Maybe, after being hit in the head, the victim temporarily lost his sense of time and his ability to count bullets.

That’s what I’d be arguing to my fellow jurors, anyway.

“Have you ever been hit REALLY hard in the head?...”

[hellinahandcart]

All the shoplifter had to do was LEAVE, and he’d still be alive.

Anything that happened after HE initiated the violence is on him.

[donozark]

Amadou Dialo was shot at 41 times by NYPD

[hellinahandcart]

It’s a he. Kevin.

The women on the jury might still like him, though. 😉

[SharpRightTurn]

“the shoplifter punched Madrid in the face”

A serious miscalculation.

[csvset]

Local case, one punch,

Man sentenced to 14 years in prison for deadly Chesapeake bar fight

[Repeat Offender]

Depends on the state. Fear of “serious bodily harm,” is grounds for lethal response in some states.

[Gritty]

Madrid later told police he did not see if the man had any weapons, according to the reports.

Getting punched in the face or head can be deadly. His weapon was his fist and the desire to throw it to injure Madrid.

[frank ballenger]

Not a current law enforcement officer but a citizen in danger while others were in danger. In many such cases the others in the store are shot, taken hostage or in danger from an emotional criminal.

This is about police but is interesting....
https://www.police1.com/patrol-issues/articles/why-shooting-to-wound-doesnt-make-sense-scientifically-legally-or-tactically-6bOdYvNUEECtIWRI/

[VideoDoctor]

NOT GUILTY!

[frank ballenger]

I have excerpted here:

“I don’t care how good a shot you are,” says Avery, “if your life is threatened you’re going to go for the surer thing first and worry about your assailant’s life being saved second.
If a guy is running at me with a blade, the last thing I’m going to be thinking is ‘I’m going to shoot him in the arm.’” Hence, shooting for center mass may become a psychological default.

• Poor shot placement is bound to increase. Even when officers are trying to shoot center mass, they often miss.
Lewinski recalls a case he was involved in where an officer firing under high stress just 5 feet from an offender failed to hit him at all with the first 5 rounds and connected with the next four only because the suspect moved into his line of fire.

“Hitting an arm or a leg on a moving suspect with surgical precision will be virtually impossible,” Avery asserts. “I could probably count on one hand the individuals who can make that kind of shot under the pressure of their life on the line. Expecting that level of performance by police officers on an agency-wide basis is ludicrous.” Misses may well go on to injure or kill someone else.

[tired&retired]

As long as the shots were not in his back.

He kept coming at me. His punch in my head made it difficult to think..

[cgbg]

What is your name?

Lawyer.

Is that your first or last name?

Lawyer.

We have a right to know your name.

Lawyer.

We can arrest you if you won’t give your name.

Lawyer.

OK. You are under arrest. (reads rights)

Lawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer.

[tired&retired]

Was the last shot between his eyes?

[Lazamataz]

Is it legal anywhere is the U.S. for someone punched in the face to empty his gun on the assailant? Maybe if he were on the ground and repeated blows kept coming, but, otherwise, no imo.

You're wrong.

[deport]

Kevin Salas Madrid was arrested in the fatal shooting.
Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

[Lazamataz]

A single punch isn’t likely to be legally construed as deadly force, allowing deadly self defense.

Tell ya what.

You let this guy punch you in the face and then tell me how it's not deadly force.

Oh wait. You won't be able to. You'll be dead.

Samoans are well-known for being able to kill with one punch.

[LouAvul]

Every quote I heard on tv was if in danger, pull your sidearm and keep pulling the trigger till the gun goes "click."

What's the problem here?

[Lazamataz]

You should give your name, that’s acceptable to me. ....however, the second thing that should come out of your mouth is “I was in fear for my life.” Then the third thing should be “I need my lawyer.” Then the fourth thing should be “I feel I need to go to a hospital immediately.” Then, shut up.,

[frank ballenger]

Single punch can kill. And more can kill if the victim has a hidden health weakness problem.

First, Knockout Game was covered fully by the late Colin Flaherty in books and videos such as White Girl Bleed A Lot.

Also, some others:

One-punch killings: They happen more often than you ...

Oregon Live
oregonlive.com Jul 20, 2015 — Lewis Allen Wilson apparently was the victim of a bar fight that spun out of control, and he died from a blow to the head. No suspect was ....

The man who killed a stranger with a single punch.
in The Guardian , May 14, 2022 — Jacob Dunne spent his life dealing drugs and getting into fights until, in 2011, he struck a deadly blow.

One Punch Can Kill – Unlawful Striking Causing Death

Corney & Lind Lawyers

corneyandlind.com.au (Australia)
Queensland’s Safe Night Out Act 2014 endorses harsher penalties under the Criminal Code for a ‘one punch can kill’ scenario.

One Punch Assaults Causing Death
www.gotocourt.com.au ›
After to several highly-publicised one punch assaults....