[MtnClimber]

Is this green energy crisis just another tool of the left to destroy Western Civilization?

[cpdiii]

If wind and solar were competitive the electrical companies would build them with no subsidies from the customers. It is not cost competitive.

[nopardons]

BTTT

[marktwain]

Solar and wind energy plants are forced on the consumers because the central planners want them.

The expansion of solar and wind plants is another failure of central planning, based on the false predictions of "global warming", now known as "climate change".

[Sicon]

But the red states could do it, and thereby give their consumers the benefits of far lower electricity costs, while also exposing how the blue states are damaging their own citizens in the pursuit of the climate religion.

As if the blue state governments give a crap? As if the blue state voters wouldn't say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

I live in NJ. I know what blue state governments, and worse, the vast majority of their citizens, are like.

[Reeses]

rapidly rising consumer electricity costs

Cost is roughly proportional to total indirect energy consumption, pollution, and CO2 emissions. If green energy costs more, it has a bigger carbon footprint somewhere. To find out where, simply follow the money, all the way to China.

Money is really just an abstract representation of energy. Spending money is the same thing as consuming energy in proportion to the price. The average price of an ounce of gold reflects the average energy needed to find, mine, and market it. If government makes energy more expensive, the price of gold goes up, and the quality of life goes down.

[MMusson]

Germany has spent 2 Trillion Euro on Solar and Wind. California has spent 1/3rd that much.

California gets 5 times more energy from its investments because:

The sun shines and the wind blows in California. But, not in Germany.

[MMusson]

Germany has spent 2 Trillion Euro on Solar and Wind. California has spent 1/3rd that much.

California gets 5 times more energy from its investments because:

The sun shines and the wind blows in California. But, not in Germany.

[The Great RJ]

The Democrat controlled Legislature in the Peoples Republic of Minnesota has passed a “green” energy bill that by 2030 will require all electricity in the state to come from renewable sources. The bill has been dubbed the Blackout Bill as it will surely leave Minnesotans sitting in the dark and during typical Minnesota winters in danger of freezing to death. For those wanting to use their wood stoves or fireplaces to stave off freezing to death during the blackouts our Legislature has also banned gasoline powered chainsaws. Be happy Comrades as true Communism is at hand.

[joshua c]

if there was no climate crisis

wind and solar would be stupid

there is no climate crisis

[oldtech]

I have always insisted that given different sources of electrical energy, there is one that will supply all the needs reliably; that being the so-called fossil fuels. The “green energy” sources can’t completely fill the needs of today & most likely not the future by themselves. So why have two sources when one is a large added expense & not all that practical either. America needs CONTINUOUS electricity & windmills & solar won’t do it. However, green energy would be fine for use that is not absolutely needed continuously, like signboards & such. It has it’s place where more conventional sources might not be readily available or expedient.