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Arctic climate modeling too conservative, says new research
Phys.org ^ | March 13, 2023 | by University of Gothenburg

Posted on 03/13/2023 11:02:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Climate models used by the UN's IPCC and others to project climate change are not accurately reflecting what the Arctic's future will be. Researchers at the University of Gothenburg argue that the rate of warming will be much faster than projected.

Due to the Arctic´s sea ice cover and its harsh climate, relatively few observations are made in that part of world. This means that the climate models used for projecting the future of the Arctic have not been calibrated to the same extent there as in other parts of the world.

Two recent scientific studies involving researchers from the University of Gothenburg compared the results of the climate models with actual observations. They concluded that the warming of the Arctic Ocean will proceed at a much faster rate than projected by the climate models.

"These climate models underestimate the consequences of climate change. In reality, the relatively warm waters in the Arctic regions are even warmer, and closer to the sea ice. Consequently, we believe that the Arctic sea ice will melt away faster than projected," explains Céline Heuzé, climatologist at the University of Gothenburg and lead author of one of the studies.

"We need a climate model that is tailored to the Arctic. In general, you can't use the same model for the entire planet, as conditions vary considerably. A better idea would be to create a specific model for the Arctic that correctly factors in the processes occurring in the Arctic Ocean and surrounding land areas," Céline Heuzé explains.

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KEYWORDS: climate; globalwarming; hoax; models; propaganda; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

” This means that the climate models used for projecting the future of the Arctic have not been calibrated to the same extent there as in other parts of the world.”

They aren’t calibrated in the rest of the world either!! The models are unvalidated and do not work. They cannot go back 100 years and get to today...They consistently grossly overestimate any warming that has occurred.


21 posted on 03/13/2023 12:14:01 PM PDT by nhbob1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; shotgun; Erik Latranyi; ChildOfThe60s; Ronaldus Magnus III; Regulator
Turn a blank sheet of paper sideways. On the left write “weather event” in small letters, draw a circle around the words, and then draw a small arrow pointing to the right side. On the far right, write the words "manmade climate change” in small letters, draw a circle around the words, and then draw a small arrow pointing to the circle.

Is there not a large blank space in the middle? Do you ever see a story which fills in this area? Do you ever read a story that emphasizes words like sun and ocean?

I will submit there is no evidence of man-made global warming because no adherent to the popular mythology will acknowledge the existence of the sun and oceans. All I have ever seen are comments on weather events or physical phenomenon involving temperature followed by an assertion global warming is the cause. Such reasoning requires a complete disconnect between events and conclusions, and is no more rigorous than Middle Age alchemy.

I have yet to find any article which attempts to measure the influence of the sun and ocean and then ascribe an increment to human activity. It was only since the late 70’s that it was possible to attemt to confirm changes in the sun’s radiance independent of earth. With out a rigorous solution involving those two enormous engines, models created provide outcomes no more elegant than what is left behind when a brand new puppy is turned loose in a house decorated with white carpets and white furniture.

Even before that time any true scientist would have said data collected could not be analyzed, because people had known for centuries the sun was a variable star and it was not possible to separate influences for any mathematical computations. Now that it is possible to separate the influence of the sun but not the oceans, the analysis of such a complicated interaction is still highly problematic. Therefore, political rhetoric must be substituted for application of the scientific method.

> Nobel Prize Winner in Physics Ivar Giæver Exposes the Pseudoscience of Global Warming

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There Is No Climate Emergency

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How Strongly Does The Sun Influence The Global Climate?

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THE SUN DEFINES THE CLIMATE

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About 71% of Earth's surface is covered with water

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average depth of the ocean

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Global warming Petition Project

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22 posted on 03/13/2023 1:13:10 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: rigelkentaurus; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; Kaslin; BenLurkin; Liz; MHGinTN

Well, in fact, the actual Arctic sea ice has remained steady since 2007.

Now, it DID DECLINE between the highs back when the first satellite measurements began in 1978-79.

Declined noticeably from (about) 1983 to 2006. Yes, sea ice decreased!

Since 2007 - now 1/3 of the entire 45 year satellite record, SEA ICE HAS REMAINED STEADY.


23 posted on 03/13/2023 2:12:01 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: MeganC
10,000 years or so ago there was beach front property 100 miles off the coast of Florida.

At one time the Sahara was lush and green....now it's a desert.

24 posted on 03/13/2023 2:46:55 PM PDT by ealgeone
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