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What are the media doing? Can someone explain this?
FR ^ | March 9 | RF

Posted on 03/09/2023 1:28:55 AM PST by RandFan

NYT and The Times of London saying a "pro-Ukraine group" blew up the Nord Stream pipelines. Seymour Hersh who I respect says Biden/US Navy divers did it.

Is this propaganda then, Freepers? What's going on here...


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KEYWORDS: hersh; seymourhersh; theusualdumbspects; whatakrok
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To: RandFan

Exit strategy?


41 posted on 03/09/2023 4:44:15 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Fresh Wind
“Except that much of what is claimed to be proof is propaganda too.”

Exactly. Facts and objective truth are in increasingly short supply, particularly in government and the media.

42 posted on 03/09/2023 4:44:57 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: RandFan

Isn’t the current misadministration a pro Ukraine group!’)


43 posted on 03/09/2023 4:46:47 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: RandFan

Respecting Seymour Hersh shows poor discernment.


44 posted on 03/09/2023 4:47:45 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

A very astute observation.


45 posted on 03/09/2023 5:23:32 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: RandFan

If your post is not satire, I’d say that it represents your answer.


46 posted on 03/09/2023 5:44:18 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: buwaya

“A Ukrainian group is excellent legal cover.

“Ukraine has free reign to attack Russian property in international waters, given that it is at war with Russia, and has the right to retaliate vs enormous damage Russia has inflicted....”

Bingo. The most sensible interpretation I’ve seen. Thanks.

And it doesn’t matter if it seems obvious propaganda right now. They think they are laying down something for future historians. They realize how bad the allies could look if, for example, word got out that the Polish army really did attack that German radio station in 1939.


47 posted on 03/09/2023 6:12:05 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: RandFan

Media is Mind Kontrol Ultra.
There is a war for your mind.


48 posted on 03/09/2023 7:25:39 AM PST by conservativeimage (The world is not dark. The future is not bleak. Tomorrow will be a good day.)
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To: RandFan

it is all propaganda now 24x7. Look at behavior. it looks like a cover up. Follow the money.


49 posted on 03/09/2023 7:27:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: kiryandil

Boat Team Six. /Obama’s Afghan “allies” killed them.


50 posted on 03/09/2023 7:42:37 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Widget Jr
Hersh does not know what he is talking about at all.

They denied his story on the My Lai Massacre until they didn't.

Give him time; every other explanation has been laughable.

51 posted on 03/09/2023 8:38:00 AM PST by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: Captain Walker
They denied his story on the My Lai Massacre until they didn't.

My Lai was a war crime and more should have been held accountable for it and trying to cover it up. Since then Hersh has gotten a lot wrong.

* Doubting Osama Bin Laden was involved in 9/11.
* IN 2004, saying at a ACLU conference the US in Abu Ghraib videotaped girls getting raped in front of their mothers. He has never produced those tapes.
* Osama Bin Laden was already in Pakistan custody. SEALS were just let in when they killed him.

Give him time; every other explanation has been laughable.

My previous posts on why Hersh's story does not add up and Russian reasons and means for sabotaging the Nord pipelines.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4136067/posts?page=51#51
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4129591/posts?page=31#31
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4101972/posts?page=16#16
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4096594/posts?page=29#29

For what he gets right, his embellishing stories with questionable techno-thriller spy novel stuff brings his work into question. It takes away from what really happened, if what he says really happened.
To be fair, making sense of the covert, cover ups, and the criminal actions of government is not hard science either.

52 posted on 03/09/2023 4:46:07 PM PST by Widget Jr ( 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0 )
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