[Zionist Conspirator]

“What hath Athens to do with Jerusalem?”__Tertullian

[PGR88]

Both Chinese Marxists, and Western/American neo-Marxists (who are so common in Government and academia), are confounded by the existence, practicality of, and acceptance of Greek/Christian philosophical ideas.

China can simply ban teaching of those ideas, so the REAL battleground is actually here in the West.

[Boogieman]

“A significant number of Chinese thinkers, nonetheless, view classical thought as the source of corruption in the West...”

Well, they’ve got that a bit backwards. This is why Russia was always the bigger threat than China could ever be, because Russia understood the West in ways that China never will, and Russia knew that to defeat the West, you would need to undermine the culture first, and knew what to attack to do that. China is still blinded by their own propaganda in that regard, unwilling to admit that it is the very Western culture they look down on that makes us stronger than them.

[ckilmer]

The difference between the ancient Greeks and the Jews/Christians is that the Greeks believed that man is the measure of all things. Whereas the Jews/Christians believe that God is the measure of all things.

The reason for that is that the Greeks of the classic period had shrugged off the old gods whom they viewed as irrational changeable and utterly unreliable. Further they recognized that their gods were just projections of themselves. Therefor the true measure of things is Man. Because all other yardsticks don’t work.

The Jews and Christians however believed that God is the measure of all things. They believed that God is a rational God. That he created a rational universe that obeyed observable laws. That God gave man minds capable of reason by which men can understand God’s creation.

[metmom]

Right, because we all know that the Chinese have never been corrupt, right?

[Waverunner]

... “The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority;
they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.
Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room.
They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
- attributed to Socrates

Translation: Today’s kids are all into their tech and not doing anything of value; they are defiant, disrespectful, all talk and no work.
Kids think they rule the roost and fail to help around the house. Kids have no respect for old people.
They argue with their parents, are on their phones when company is over, live on fast food, burp and fart, and give their teachers headaches.
-the Barb, 2015

[Verginius Rufus]

Thucydides doesn’t say that the growth of Athenian power “made war inevitable” (as if it was something beyond human control) but rather that the growth of Athenian power and the fear this provided to the Spartans forced them into making war. The Spartans made what they thought was a rational choice—they could have decided differently.