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To: Morgana
Where was her family? Why didn't they come pick her up? Why were the police called first?

The police did spend an hour & 16 minutes trying to get her to come along willingly. Cops are not trained medical personnel. Sadly, people seeking medical attention is the 3rd leading cause of deaths, at the hands of medical professionals. In some ways I almost feel that people are being unrealistic about how the police should react in situations like this.

Tragic outcome for sure, but I feel there is more to this story, yet the blame is being laid at the feet of the police. I blame the hospital for not calling her family members to come pick her up. If they did call the family first, then the blame shifts to the family for no doing so.

21 posted on 02/25/2023 4:04:41 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
The police did spend an hour & 16 minutes trying to get her to come along willingly. Cops are not trained medical personnel.

To an extent, I agree, but I watched the whole video and she kept crying out that her ankle was injured and she couldn't stand. They didn't even ask "which ankle." They just didn't want to hear it. She's old, she's fat, she's stinky, get this garbage out of here. That was the attitude.

I have to say, I don't know for sure if I'd been more aware than they when it comes to taking the hospital's word for her condition, but if I was trying to help her into the van and she was saying over and over, "My ankle, my ankle, I can't, I can't..." I think I'd have at least had the presence of mind to ask, "Which ankle" so we could try to work around it.

30 posted on 02/25/2023 5:33:18 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Robert DeLong

She may have had no family.

She may be estranged from her family.

Her estrangement may even be her fault.

It’s an ethical dilemma that bumps right up on socialism. If a person shows up at a hospital and says they need care, even if they have no money or insurance (if she was elderly she surely had Medicare), and the hospital makes an error? in not predicting her imminent death? and she is acting like she is just drunk or high. . . and smoking while saying she can’t breathe?

I mean I am not sure about “fault,” here. But I am truly sorry she suffered like so in any case.

She might be well insured, have loving family that wasn’t contacted, had all sorts of vital signs that indicated she should stay in hospital, I don’t know. In which case she is a total victim.


51 posted on 02/25/2023 8:45:43 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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