Posted on 02/21/2023 9:24:13 AM PST by ransomnote
Lots of rumors.
That’s to be expected in war.
It is fine to be mentally prepared for stuff, but they are still rumors.
(I am still waiting on the suitcase nukes to go off from 9/11.)
Same here. I fully expect the next nuclear bomb to go off in any city will be a covert action, not an overt one. And they might even hit opposing sides at once to add to the confusion.
He went there because Zelensky put pressure on him. I am convinced that our eager support for the war is all a trap set on some of “us”, and some of “us” are complicit in setting that trap. Not just to destroy our economy, but also out of blackmail—Ukraine was the West’s playground, and the jon LIEbowitz of Ukraine threatened us (the left and neocons) with releasing all of the information (like biolabs and Hunter Biden) if we didn’t trick ourselves into a war that was (possibly) being acted out by both sides. Russia and Ukraine could be in on this together—the outcome was never in doubt. They are acting together...pretending. Putin will go to great lengths to pull out this “prank”. And the joke will be on us. What better way to get rid of the lone, main obstacle to the Great Reset?
Back when Russia was Russia, the problem wasn’t getting the nukes. It was finding a suitcase.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled It looks like NATO is ramping up it's plans for WWIII and Biden seems to be helping., Captainpaintball wrote: |
He went there because Zelensky put pressure on him. I am convinced that our eager support for the war is all a trap set on some of “us”, and some of “us” are complicit in setting that trap. Not just to destroy our economy, but also out of blackmail—Ukraine was the West’s playground, and the jon LIEbowitz of Ukraine threatened us (the left and neocons) with releasing all of the information (like biolabs and Hunter Biden) if we didn’t trick ourselves into a war that was (possibly) being acted out by both sides. Russia and Ukraine could be in on this together—the outcome was never in doubt. They are acting together...pretending. Putin will go to great lengths to pull out this “prank”. And the joke will be on us. What better way to get rid of the lone, main obstacle to the Great Reset? |
I think Putin is 'Russia First' and doesn't care about collaborators or what happens to them. The impact of the war is, in my opinion, far too disparate, with the Ukraine getting crushed and Russia's economy doing better. The Ukrainian military is neo Nazi and all in all, NATO threatens Russia with Regime change. I don't see any 'uniparty' ground when it comes to Russia vs. NATO.
I agree completely.
I do not support Ukraine or Russia.
All I ask is people to do step back and take a look.
Is Ukraine winning?
No.
Is Russia winning?
Also no.
That’s right now.
If, when, later, next month, next year haven’t happened and no one knows what the situation will be later.
But right now, a bunch of people would get to live if both could agree to negotiate a settlement.
The USA government should be leading this.
Negotiating with Russia isn’t appeasement. Negotiating with Ukraine isn’t giving into Nazis.
There's been a lot of Russian propaganda chatter about Ukrainian use of radioactive materials or chemical weapons recently, so if there are any false flags, it would be Russia using them against its own troops to justify using WMD against Ukraine.
It could be, but if Zin thinks that NATO will respond with nukes to a dirty bomb in Ukraine he is insane. And stupid.
Remember when Ukraine said Russia had shelled one of their nuke plants.
Concur, but
“The USA government should be leading this.”
They could have prevented it! But instead tuber head and the rest of the FedGov dared him, then left him no face-saving way out.
The US Gov clearly wanted all this to happen for some reason. They’re full throttle on making this as bad as possible.
Then they go and blow up that pipeline. Never seen anything like it.
Then we had better win it. If the war has begun, the time for hand wringing and whining is over.
Thanks God Jim Robinson gave that sack of Shiite the ZOT!
Good riddance to the FRESHPRINCE of the Ukraine.
Bkmk
You are wrong. The Russian Federation is winning. Taking territory is not the primary objective; it is, as has been stated from the beginning, the demilitarization of Ukraine.
The Zelensky regime has been begging for weapons precisely because the Russian Federation destroyed most of the military equipment Ukraine began the war with by early summer. Ukraine was resupplied with a new army’s worth of equipment, and that was destroyed in the disasterous Kherson and Kharkov “offensives”, in which Ukraine lost brigades and brigades worth of men and equipment. The number of Ukrainian soldiers killed and wounded is astronomical, which is why Ukraine is now enlisting down to 16 year-olds and conscripting up to 60 year-olds. Women are being put into service, and men are being dragged off the streets and sent to the front with no training.
The Russians continue to destroy Ukrainian equipment, and Zelensky continues to demand more arms. Unfortunately for him, the West has been shown to have squandered it’s wealth on the welfare state and our militaries are nearly hollowed out, as is also the case with our ability to manufacture arms. There is almost nothing we can spare now to send Ukraine in the way of ammunition or other arms.
Demands for tanks and aircraft are idiotic because of the time it takes to train on these systems so they can even theoretically be used effectively. It’s theoretical because those weapons systems can’t be used effectively except in combined arms campaigns, which Ukraine cannot support (not nearly enough artillery, air defense systems, ammunition, etc.), and the West can’t provide them in any relevant time frame.
The Russians have been content to take their time. They pound strongly fortified Ukrainian positions with massive firepower day after day, and then they send in the their tanks and infantry to finish the job. Most of the time the Ukrainians keep feeding reserves into the positions they are trying to hold, and the Russians continue the destruction with their artillery. If, as the Russians say, the Ukrainians want to continue “running to the knife” the Russians are content to continue with their target practice.
It will not be long before the AFU collapses somewhere along the line of contact, and the Russians will then move, having preserved its men and equipment. How much territory will the Russians take? In March they would have settled for recognition of Crimea and semi-autonomy for the Donbass. Now, given the extent of Western intervention, who knows? Perhaps the line will be drawn along the Dnieper from the north and sweep around to the south to Transnistria.
BTW, keep an eye on Transnistria and Moldova. Kiev is trying to pull Moldovans into the war so Ukrainians can seize Transnistria. Why? Because the largest ammo dumps in Europe are there full of Soviet era ammunition that Ukraine desperately needs because the West is unable to supply ammunition in the quantities needed. Of course, the propaganda line is that the Russians are planning to takeover Moldova. While it is likely that a majority of Moldovans support the Russian Federation, look at a map. At this stage of the game there is no point for the Russians to add another theatre of war, certainly one far behind Ukrainian lines that would involve very difficult logistics. Ukraine, on the other hand, is right on the border of Transnistria/Moldova and has an existential imperative to invade. My guess is that Ukraine will collaborate with the West-friendly Moldovan government to fabricate claims of an attempted Russian coup as a pretext for military action. There may be a coup, but if there is it will be because the the Moldovan people lack food and heat - no Russians needed. In any event, the Russians will have to do something to prevent Ukraine from seizing the ammunition in Transnistria.
This is a US proxy war against the Russian Federation that should never have happened. If the American people had been asked if we wanted to foment a war in Ukraine the answer would have been a resounding “No.”
I don't want to swap the lying DNCMedia sources with lying Russian government or PRC sources. They both lie.
The Russians aren't wining. All your “points” are opinion, and sound way to good to be true. Nothing you say is neutrally established fact.
I do not believe a word out of the Western press. NOR do I believe the Russian or Chinese press.
I don't believe the Ukrainians either.
The only important fact to me is this: I thought the might of the Russians, as the world's second most superior military, would crush Ukraine in a month. Yet here it is a year later and the Ukrainians are not crushed.
You say:
It will not be long before the AFU collapses somewhere along the line of contact, and the Russians will then move, having preserved its men and equipment.
If it will not be long, can you give me a date?
A month? Two? By June 1st? Fall?
It's highly debatable whether the current occupation governments in Washington and Kiev winning that war would be the best outcome for liberty on this planet, if the recent actions of both are any indicator.
You are deluding yourself if you think that Russia (and China) defeating the US “occupation government” as you call it would be an improvement. Consider that “Better Hitler than Blum” was the foolish quip of many on the French Right before WW II, with Blum referring to Leon Blum, the leading French Socialist of the day. The result of France’s internal divisions was a catastrophic defeat and a dismal and cruel occupation by the Nazis. Is that sort of thing what you want for the United States?
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled It looks like NATO is ramping up it's plans for WWIII and Biden seems to be helping., CodeJockey wrote: |
Remember when Ukraine said Russia had shelled one of their nuke plants. |
I totally forgot about that until you reminded me. Thanks.
Not later than fall, but perhaps by June.
Elements of the AFU along the northern portion of the line of contact (Krasyny Liman to Kupiansk) are already complaining about their lack of ammunition. The despe5rate search for ammunition usuable by the AFU reflects the shortage. As for “opinion”, it is not “opinion” that the SMO’s primary objective is demilitarization of Ukraine. It is not “opinion” that the AFU cannot engage in combined arms warfare because they have little artillery and ammunition, no air force to speak of or many drones, virtually no air defense, and no modern main battle tanks (even its T 64s have mostly been pulled off the line of contact). It is not “opinion” that the RF’s ammo dumps in Transnistria are the largest in Europe and perfectly suited for AFU use. It is not “opinion” that despite transparently false NATO propaganda, Russians are not running out of artillery shells and missiles. That bit of mendacious fluff has appeared from time to time in the Western press since last spring, yet the AFU has had to endure Russian artillery barrages that have ranged from 20k to 60k shells a day. Massive missile strikes continue to occur periodically and are dismantling the electrical and other war fighting infrastructure of Ukraine. That is not an “opinion”. The Zelensky regime’s dragging 16 year-olds, the elderly, and women into the AFU is not difficult to discover. It is not an “opinion” that giving various flavors of modern main battle tanks or aircraft will make no difference in this conflict. Learning to operate a tank at a very basic level takes at least 6 months, but it takes years to learn how to use tanks in combined arms warfare (look for what Lt. Col. Daniel Davis, for example, writes on this topic in “45”, which is an online magazine). As for aircraft, even the extremely pro Ukraine British press admits that the fastest a pilot can become proficient in an F 16 is 35 months (that’s the shortest course). That is not an “opinion”. If you look at how long it takes us to train pilots and tankers, you will understand. I would also mention that there are enormous logistical issues relating to the use of these weapons platforms. Brian Berletic discusses this at length on The New Atlas (he is pro RF, but these are easily verifiable technical issues). It is NOT an opinion that the losses of the AFU were catastrophic in Kherson and Kharkov. In Kherson the AFU never reached the RF lines because of the intensity of the artillery and arial bombardment.
None of this is a matter of favoring one side over the other. Ukraine is potentially a few missile strikes short of losing its electrical grid (do you know that the Ukrainian train system, which is the AFU’s main logistical asset, is almost all electric and that the Ukrainian guage is incompatible with Europes’, so that European diesels can’t pick up the slack? That is not an “opinion”.); the AFU’s position is precarious all along the line of contact.
I agree that the RF could have crushed Ukraine at the beginning, but that was not the objective of the SMO. Had the West not pressured Zelensky to walk away from the agreement he had hammered out with the RF in Istanbul in March, the RF gamble on a very limited military operation would have proved correct. Unfortunately, Zelensky did walk away. Now we don’t know what the RF’s end game will be. My suggestion about that end game IS an opinion. Whatever the details of the final settlement, there will be no Ukraine as it existed at 2/24/22.
If you are truly interested in fair-minded, fact-based (but far from infallible) information about the war, you can get detail on what is happening on the line of contact down to a granular level on The Military Summary Channel, and a broader perspective that includes both military and geopolitical issues is available from Alexander Mercouris. Berletic is pro-Russian, but he is extremely good on technical issues and always provides extensive links to his sources. The first two post every day, and Berlectic posts 2-3 times a week. Mercouris is a former lawyer and tries scrupulously to be as fair as possible.
I wish you well.
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