Posted on 02/04/2023 5:46:40 AM PST by MtnClimber
Nearly half of the Democrats in the House of Representatives voted against a resolution condemning the “horrors of socialism” Thursday, revealing a “soft spot” many in the party have for the destructive political ideology. Democrats split their vote for the resolution by a 109-86 tally, Fox News reported, “even though every Democrat who debated the bill spoke against the resolution.” The total vote was The was 328-86 with 14 Democrats voting “present.”
After two years of far-left Democrat governance, Republicans felt a need to bring the issue up to remind the public that socialist policies go against America’s founding principles.
Repeating talking points they’ve been using for weeks, Democrats accused Republicans of using the measure to justify their purported plan to cut Social Security, Medicare and other social welfare programs.
“Despite my Democratic colleagues’ claims, there’s nothing in this resolution about entitlement programs or banning social services or anything of the like,” said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C.
Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif) blasted the resolution, calling it “misleading and sophomoric” for conflating hardcore Communists like Kim Jong Il with socialist leaders like former French president François Mitterrand.
Sherman argued that not all forms of Marxism deserve condemnation.
In response, McHenry thanked him for admitting that Democrats have a soft spot for socialist policies.
“If this resolution would just simply draw out my Democrat colleagues to just say, yes, they are in favor of socialism, maybe this is a worthwhile endeavor,” McHenry said.
In his floor speech, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) expressed concerns that the U.S. government is “inching closer toward socialism.”
“I support today’s House resolution denouncing socialism ‘in all its forms,’ Massie tweeted. “Many on the other side of the aisle embrace big government socialism and would do so even if government spending exceeded 80% of our gross domestic product (GDP). Our government already spends too much.”
“Historically, Republicans have tried to label as socialist any Democratic actions that improve the lives of Americans,” added Rep. Nydia Velazquez (D-N.Y.) “This is what Republicans call socialism. From climate action and public education to affordable care and Social Security, Republicans classify popular government programs to help working families as socialism.”
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) reminded Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) the ranking Democrat on the Committee, of the time she threatened to nationalize the oil industry unless it lowered gasoline prices for consumers.
“Guess what this liberal would be all about?” she told John Hofmeister, the CEO of Royal Dutch Shell during a hearing fifteen years ago. “This liberal would be all about socializing—um—would be about—um—basically taking over and the government running all of your companies,” Waters said.
Roy asked Waters if she still felt that way, and the Democrat, who voted against the resolution to condemn socialism, dissembled and claimed she was not a socialist. “I’m a a capitalist,” she insisted. “And I commit to you that I am here to save Social Security, to save Medicare, to save seniors and veterans …”
Asked again if she disavows what she said all those years ago, Waters repeated, “I am not a socialist.”
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) called socialism “one of the most destructive ideologies in world history.
Socialism is broadly understood to be an economic and political theory that calls for putting the means of production into the hands of a public collective, and “democratic socialism” is seen as a philosophy that calls for a heavier government hand that might approach the governing styles of some European nations.
The resolution approved by the House says history shows that any move toward socialism “necessitates a concentration of power that has time and time again collapsed into Communist regimes, totalitarian rule, and brutal dictatorships.”
It says socialist policies have led to “famine and mass murders, and the killing of over 100,000,000 people worldwide,” along with some of the “greatest crimes in history” committed by Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot and others.
“[B]etween 15,000,000 and 55,000,000 people starved to death in the wake of famine and devastation caused by the Great Leap Forward in China,” the resolution notes. “[T]he socialist experiment in Cambodia led to the killing fields in which over a million people were gruesomely murdered.”
Florida Republican Maria Salazar, the daughter of Cuban exiles, noted that 60 years after the communist takeover of Cuba, the majority of people there only eat one meal a day, and makes only 40 cents a day.
“Socialists are in the business of power, and it only takes one generation to believe their false promises and lose our freedom. It is a lie that socialism will solve your problems,” Salazar said.
[numerous tweets are included in the article at the source link]
Summer Lee, my Communist Representative (Pittsburgh).
Moke Doyle was a Socialist, but he retired.
Now we have Summer Lee, a black Communist.
Am I a bigot? You’re damned right.
Get the hell out of my country.!
Why does congress spend its time on such gotcha ridiculousness.
Is this what they were elected to do? This is just election click bait garbage.
Just wondering, will this resolution be sent to the senate now?
No some idiots want to get rid of Social Security not replace. I haven’t heard one person suggest what they would replace it with.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/118-2023/h106
H.Con.Res. 9: Denouncing the horrors of socialism.
Feb 2, 2023 at 12:36 p.m. ET. On the Resolution in the House.
All Votes
Vote District Party Representative
Nay AZ 7th D Grijalva, Raúl
Nay CA 2nd D Huffman, Jared
Present CA 7th D Matsui, Doris
Nay CA 8th D Garamendi, John
Nay CA 10th D DeSaulnier, Mark
Nay CA 12th D Lee, Barbara
Nay CA 15th D Mullin, Kevin
Present CA 16th D Eshoo, Anna
Nay CA 28th D Chu, Judy
Nay CA 29th D Cárdenas, Tony
Nay CA 31st D Napolitano, Grace
Nay CA 32nd D Sherman, Brad
Nay CA 34th D Gomez, Jimmy
Nay CA 35th D Torres, Norma
Nay CA 37th D Kamlager, Sydney
Nay CA 38th D Sánchez, Linda
Nay CA 39th D Takano, Mark
Nay CA 42nd D Garcia, Robert Julio
Nay CA 43rd D Waters, Maxine
Nay CA 44th D Barragán, Nanette
Nay CA 47th D Porter, Katie
Present CA 51st D Jacobs, Sara
Nay CA 52nd D Vargas, Juan
Nay CO 1st D DeGette, Diana
Nay CT 1st D Larson, John
Nay CT 2nd D Courtney, Joe
Nay CT 3rd D DeLauro, Rosa
Nay CT 4th D Himes, Jim
Nay CT 5th D Hayes, Jahana
Present DE D Blunt Rochester, Lisa
Nay FL 10th D Frost, Maxwell
Nay GA 4th D Johnson, Hank
Nay GA 5th D Williams, Nikema
Nay GA 13th D Scott, David
Nay HI 2nd D Tokuda, Jill
Nay IL 2nd D Kelly, Robin
Nay IL 3rd D Ramirez, Delia
Nay IL 4th D García, Chuy
Nay IL 7th D Davis, Danny
Nay IL 9th D Schakowsky, Jan
Nay IN 7th D Carson, André
Nay KY 3rd D McGarvey, John
Nay ME 1st D Pingree, Chellie
Nay MD 3rd D Sarbanes, John
Nay MD 5th D Hoyer, Steny
Nay MD 7th D Mfume, Kweisi
Nay MD 8th D Raskin, Jamie
Nay MA 1st D Neal, Richard
Nay MA 2nd D McGovern, Jim
Nay MA 7th D Pressley, Ayanna
Nay MI 12th D Tlaib, Rashida
Nay MI 13th D Thanedar, Shri
Nay MN 4th D McCollum, Betty
Nay MN 5th D Omar, Ilhan
Nay MO 1st D Bush, Cori
Nay MO 5th D Cleaver, Emanuel
Nay NJ 6th D Pallone, Frank
Nay NJ 9th D Pascrell, Bill
Nay NJ 10th D Payne, Donald
Nay NJ 12th D Watson Coleman, Bonnie
Present NM 1st D Stansbury, Melanie
Present NM 3rd D Leger Fernandez, Teresa
Nay NY 7th D Velázquez, Nydia
Nay NY 9th D Clarke, Yvette
Nay NY 10th D Goldman, Dan
Nay NY 12th D Nadler, Jerrold
Nay NY 13th D Espaillat, Adriano
Nay NY 14th D Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria
Nay NY 16th D Bowman, Jamaal
Nay NY 20th D Tonko, Paul
Nay NY 26th D Higgins, Brian
Present NC 2nd D Ross, Deborah
Nay NC 4th D Foushee, Valerie
Nay NC 12th D Adams, Alma
Nay OH 3rd D Beatty, Joyce
Present OH 11th D Brown, Shontel
Nay OR 1st D Bonamici, Suzanne
Nay OR 3rd D Blumenauer, Earl
Present OR 4th D Hoyle, Valerie
Nay PA 3rd D Evans, Dwight
Present PA 5th D Scanlon, Mary
Nay PA 12th D Lee, Summer
Present RI 1st D Cicilline, David
Nay TX 7th D Fletcher, Lizzie
Nay TX 9th D Green, Al
Present TX 16th D Escobar, Veronica
Present TX 18th D Jackson Lee, Sheila
Nay TX 20th D Castro, Joaquin
Nay TX 29th D Garcia, Sylvia
Present TX 30th D Crockett, Jasmine
Nay TX 35th D Casar, Gregorio
Nay TX 37th D Doggett, Lloyd
Nay VT D Balint, Becca
Nay VA 3rd D Scott, Bobby
Nay VA 8th D Beyer, Donald
Nay VA 11th D Connolly, Gerald
Nay WA 7th D Jayapal, Pramila
Nay WA 9th D Smith, Adam
Nay WI 2nd D Pocan, Mark
Nay WI 4th D Moore, Gwen
The Nazis took over the German parliament too.
Not really a fan of these loyalty tests.
They’re just theatre and don’t do anything to dismantle the machines that are wiping out the Bill of Rights.
It’s been a month and they haven’t released video of January 6.
Chile replaced their version (used Chicago school trained economists and advice!), much smaller scale but probably worth studying.
They don’t use the word “communism “. That’s Red Baiting. Now the term is “Progressive” one and the same.
The problem they seem to be having is not generating enough victims of the system to push it over the cliff. That’s why they’re importing another “grievance” class. Cloward-Piven strategy 101.
“soft spot!?”
Full support is closer.
I think the best that could be done is new 18 year olds Can transition to a 401(k) type deal but the problem is that they already have the retirement in a 401(k) with a job so there’s really no guarantee that they’ll have money at the end of the day for retirement either. I’m glad I’m in my 50’s. These next generations are so screwed. I feel for my kids and even more so my grandkids.
Socialism is communism with training wheels.
"14th Amendment, Section 3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress [emphasis added], or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof [emphases added]. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
After all, how can House justify unconstitutionlal, unaccountable socialistic spending bills when one of the main powers that the states have given Congress to dictate domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service?
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
The inevitable remedy for ongoing, post-17th Amendment ratification corrupt political party treason (imo)...
All MAGA patriots need to wake up their RINO federal and state lawmakers by making the following clear to them.
If they don’t publicly support either a resolution, or a Constitutional Convention, to effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by amending the Constitution to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), doing so before the primary elections in 2024, that YOU will primary them.
If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.
With 16&17A out of the way, my hope is that Trump 47 becomes the FIRST president of a truly constitutionally limited power federal government.
In the meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath for significant MAGA legislation to appear in the first 100 days of new term for what may still prove to be another RINO-controlled House.
Trump will hopefully do another round of primarying RINOs for 2024 elections.
I good first but very timid step is to go back to allowing THE $2000 IRA investments to be directly deductible again. I think Biden led the charge back in the late 1980s on removing that deduction. Another very timid step would be to make SS benefits not taxable again. That would tax some “pressure” for increases off the system. I believe Biden was also responsible for making it taxable.
The bottom line is the Rats want you dependent on government largesse! Gives them an automatic constituency.
Has nothing to do with being Black. It has to do with being RED.
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