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Where Is The Formula

Posted on 01/15/2023 1:52:26 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country

So a semi drives a 1,000 miles. At 5 miles a gallon it takes 200 gallons. If a gallon of diesel costs $6 thats $1,200. To put it another way, more simply, it costs a dollar a mile (or so) to run a semi. These figures have no real value because I don't know anything exactly. Just guessing. But the point is It can easily/readily be pointed out how much it costs to run a diesel semi.

Now take a semi running off batteries. How many batteries, how long do they last and lastly how much does it cost to recharge them. Won't go into the recharge time. But WHERE IS THE FORMULA?????????? How much does it cost to run a battery driven semi???????????

The answer,,,,,,,,,,its known but well hidden!!!!!


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To: woofer2425

Almost there. Introduce magnetism for contactless travel. Collision avoidance system.


21 posted on 01/15/2023 2:42:09 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (/s)
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To: Skid289

The Gross Vehicle Weight rules in most states are 80,000 pounds.

The GVW of an empty truck and trailer is about 30,000 pounds.

That allows for 50,000 pounds of cargo for a diesel powered truck.

If a battery pack for a semi truck is 25,000 pounds, then the cargo is reduced to 25,000 pounds for an electric powered truck.

The economics are not looking good.


22 posted on 01/15/2023 2:53:08 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: MtnClimber

“If it was less expensive to run semi trucks on batteries it would have been done already without the coercion.”
You have just won the post of the day award.


23 posted on 01/15/2023 2:55:15 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Prof Michaux looks at the big picture. Hour long presentation.

The quantity of metal required to make just one generation of renewable tech units to replace fossil fuels, is much larger than first thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBVmnKuBocc


24 posted on 01/15/2023 2:58:42 PM PST by fretzer
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
You want to know what's next? Pantographs.

The whacko environmental left will demand that the government add electric wire infrastructure to our highways and then demand that all vehicles have pantographs on their roofs to supply the electricity to run, just like with trains.

Imagine the boondoggle that presents the opportunity for graft and insider trading to become yugely rich on this scam.

-PJ

25 posted on 01/15/2023 2:59:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
The economics are not looking good.

You are not thinking about the polar bears feelings.

26 posted on 01/15/2023 3:00:27 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: qaz123

>“diesel electric”
>What does that mean?

Diesel engine powering a generator which then drives electric traction motors. Diesel electric locomotives are an example.


27 posted on 01/15/2023 3:01:51 PM PST by fretzer
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To: fretzer

How about driver time? Filling up a gas tank compared to waiting on the truck to get recharged.


28 posted on 01/15/2023 3:13:45 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (“Racist” is the new “Nazi”.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

There’s one way this could work. Only drive the truck from eastern Arizona to California.


29 posted on 01/15/2023 3:14:40 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to se acure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: Skid289

Add to that the weight for refrigerated trailers.


30 posted on 01/15/2023 3:25:01 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: fretzer; qaz123

“Diesel engine powering a generator which then drives electric traction motors. Diesel electric locomotives are an example.”

And it is highly efficient and greatly multiplies torque. A much smaller diesel engine can do the same work as a large diesel engine when in this configuration.

We should have done it with cars and trucks 80 years ago. That is about how long we have had the technology.


31 posted on 01/15/2023 3:39:57 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: fretzer

I still think that is the answer. I’ve been pushing this since the late 70’s. I’m guessing there is some problem that I am not privy to. But it seems to me that a small gas- or diesel-powered, super-efficient, computer-controlled ICE running when necessary to recharge a smaller battery pack would be a workable solution.


32 posted on 01/15/2023 3:55:23 PM PST by redangus
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To: Skid289

The whole goal of these EVs is to create a world where everyone and everything is located in smaller sections so we will all be confined to our “limited area.


33 posted on 01/15/2023 3:58:16 PM PST by Trumpette1954 (Live laugh love!)
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To: qaz123

“diesel electric”

What does that mean?

Think locomotive


34 posted on 01/15/2023 3:59:45 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: daniel1212

“diesel electric”

Yes this! Been working for trains for over 60 years. Very efficient. All the benefits of electric - high torque and great acceleration - with all the benefits of diesel - relatively cheap, constant recharge and quick refueling.


35 posted on 01/15/2023 4:35:52 PM PST by Skid289
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To: MtnClimber
But why should the free market decide when clearly our betters with their superior intellects have all the answers?
36 posted on 01/15/2023 4:37:46 PM PST by Skid289
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
What’s today’s mathematics ?
37 posted on 01/15/2023 4:44:18 PM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: Skid289

20-some years ago, Car & Driver magazine ran an article comparing energy efficiency of various forms of transportation, taking into account the costs to manufacture the vehicles, to pump oil and refine fuels from it, to generate and distribute electricity, and I don’t remember what all. The most efficient way to move a given tonnage was steel wheels on steel rails, powered by diesel-electric locomotives.

I should find that article again.


38 posted on 01/15/2023 4:56:10 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: daniel1212

How about pulverized coal reciprocating/electric?

Just because we can and it has been done before.


39 posted on 01/15/2023 5:04:54 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Y’all forgetting to bring another element into this “equation”. It’s called elevation. I wonder just how these electric rigs will do climbing the Grapevine, or Tehachapi, or Great Tejon Pass or even El Cajon just to mention a few.


40 posted on 01/15/2023 5:37:19 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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