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1 posted on 01/08/2023 8:30:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m astonished. They had Mexican food in Jamestown?!


3 posted on 01/08/2023 8:47:25 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (If Black Lives Matter, how do you explain Chicago?)
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To: SunkenCiv

I bet at some point Obama visited Jamestown. Could be that. We should look for photos of him there. Probably some of him eating some suspicious meat even.


4 posted on 01/08/2023 8:47:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: SunkenCiv

How did they prove the dogs were eaten out of desperation and not because they were made out of meat?


8 posted on 01/08/2023 8:57:17 PM PST by samiam5
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To: SunkenCiv
Not sure what the "in desperation" part of this is supposed to mean. Members of the Lewis & Clark expedition, tiring of elk meat (which they were able to provide for themselves in ample quantities), traded with the Mandan Indians for dogs, to add some variety to their diet.

Not something they would have likely done back home in the East, but reflexively projecting 21st century American sensibilities to the settlers at Jamestown is a bit silly.

9 posted on 01/08/2023 8:57:57 PM PST by DSH
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Is it really surprising that ice age humans had dogs and that they traveled with them when they traveled to North America from Asia? Or that hungry people ate wolves, coyotes, or dogs in 17th century America?


24 posted on 01/09/2023 12:52:56 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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“They have lineages reaching back to some of the earliest introduction of dogs to North America, so around ... 13,000 years ago,” said Ariane Thomas, a Ph.D. student at the University of Iowa.”

Not gonna comment on the eating of doggies as I wasn’t there and not enduring their situation, but God sure created a wonderful friend to man with the doggie. I wish all of them could be treated with love and respect. It makes me so sad to see on You Tube what some of them have to experience all over this planet.


25 posted on 01/09/2023 1:28:58 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: SunkenCiv

It was better for our ancestors to eat dogs instead of their fellow humans.:

Scientists Find Cannibalism at American Settlement (Jamestown, VA)
U-T San Diego ^ | May 1, 2013 | Brett Zongker
Posted on 5/2/2013, 6:50:53 PM by DogByte6RER

Jamestown colony photo: jamestown-colony-1.jpg

Scientists find cannibalism at American settlement

WASHINGTON — Scientists say they have found the first solid archaeological evidence that some of the earliest American colonists survived harsh conditions by resorting to cannibalism.

On Wednesday, the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History and archaeologists from Jamestown announced the discovery of the bones of a 14-year-old girl with clear signs that she was cannibalized.

The human remains date back to the deadly winter of 1609-1610, known as the “starving time” in Jamestown, when hundreds of colonists died. Scientists have said the settlers arrived from England during the worst drought in 800 years.

For years, there had been unconfirmed tales of starving early colonists resorting to eating dogs, mice, snakes, shoe leather and even their own dead.


33 posted on 01/09/2023 7:35:57 AM PST by Grampa Dave ((Truth is hate speech to those, who hate the truth!) (clintonh8r))
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To: SunkenCiv

Starving people will eat ANYTHING! Including other people.


34 posted on 01/09/2023 7:50:47 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SunkenCiv

Carolina dingoes. They make great companion dogs. There are reputedky a few still in the wild in the Great Smokkues-Blue Ridge.


39 posted on 01/09/2023 5:42:59 PM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: SunkenCiv

Probably better to eat Lassie than a family member in early Jamestown.

Starvation Cannibalism at Jamestown
Bones Don’t Lie ^ | 5-2-2013 | Katy Myers
Posted on 1/19/2014, 4:03:14 AM by Renfield

If you’ve read any news in the past day, you’ve seen reports regarding cannibalism in colonial Jamestown. It was known prior that the colonists had undergone a number of starvation years where they were forced to eat foods that they wouldn’t normally. The trash pits from the sites hold the remains of animals who aren’t normally butchered, including horses, cats, dogs, rats and snakes.

Burials from this period are not given the complete funerary treatment likely due to the high number of deaths, and the skeletons show evidence of nutritional hardship and early death.

The colony was founded in 1607 and by 1608 only 38 remained, the others succumbing to starvation and disease. The following winter their supply ship didn’t arrive, and they faced the harshest winter yet. This is when cannibalism is thought to have occurred.

In 1625, George Percy, the president of Jamestown during this starvation period, wrote a letter describing this period. He wrote “Haveinge fedd upon our horses and other beastes as longe as they Lasted, we weare gladd to make shifte with vermin as doggs Catts, Ratts and myce…as to eate Bootes shoes or any other leather… And now famin beginneinge to Looke gastely and pale in every face, thatt notheinge was Spared to mainteyne Lyfe and to doe those things which seame incredible, as to digge upp deade corpes outt of graves and to eate them. And some have Licked upp the Bloode which hathe fallen from their weake fellowes.”


40 posted on 03/14/2023 3:56:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www Democrats Have All ready Won the 2024 Election, Regardless of Whom, Either Party Runs!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“In an era, when the eldest son usually inherited everything, haring off to the new world might seem less chancey than hoping big brother didn’t turn you out.”

A couple of my Brit ancestors were not the first born and were apparently from wealthy families, Their parents paid their way and financed them to go to the new world.

One such fellow was a sea going Brit Captain, and his parents bought him a ship, paid for a crew sent him to NC to live. On his way over he bought a female Greek slave and married her.

Many apparently well funded Englishmen from well established families and were paid to come to the new world. That well funded group preferred the New England area and north Virginia areas.

My later Scottish, Irish and German ancestors were not well funded!


41 posted on 03/14/2023 4:43:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www Democrats Have All ready Won the 2024 Election, Regardless of Whom, Either Party Runs!!!)
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