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The Tragedy of Damar Hamlin: What they are not saying speaks volumes and what they are saying is garbage
Political Moonshine/Substack ^ | 1/4/2022 | Political Moonshine

Posted on 01/05/2023 6:44:16 AM PST by woodbutcher1963

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To: napscoordinator

Everything will be totally politicized to the Nth degree until we reach that cataclysmic event that throws us all asunder.


41 posted on 01/05/2023 7:30:22 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: woodbutcher1963
Do you agree in your professional opinion that the impact is not likely to cause cardiac arrest?

My apologies. My screen name is based on a comic book character of the mad-scientist variety. I have no doctorate, my degree is from Christendom College in Political Science, and my like of work has generally been in IT.

That said, I agree with the point about the padding, it certainly covers the affected area. I am also open to the possibility that Hamlin has a pre-existing undiagnosed condition and that different people are more sensitive than others regarding these sorts of things.

I do find it interesting that the "booster" was received only days before the event. When the story originally unfolded it was stated that his shots were many months ago. Even so, in some people bad conditions may build up long after the shot, and we may get an unexplained flurry (or blizzard) of premature heart attacks 2, 3 or 5 years from now. We just don't know.

I have turned down numerous interviews with with government contractors who require the shot, and am presently unemployed, so I have skin in the game. No shot for me.
42 posted on 01/05/2023 7:31:00 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: woodbutcher1963

That’s a good point. He couldn’t have had better care if it had happened in the operating room. I’m surprised the multiple defib attempts didn’t seem to work.


43 posted on 01/05/2023 7:33:16 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The tackle has to hit in a 5 millisecond window to cause commotio cordis. So the odds are 5/1,000 = 0.5% that the timing would be “right.”
= = =

I am following your methods and calcs. Good approach.

But in the statement above, you have assumed that the 5 millisecond window occurs with a 1 second timeframe. How often does this 5 ms window occur? Once per second, or once per heartbeat? If the pulse rate is greater than 60, then the 5 ms windows would be closer together. Like twice as often for a 120 heart rate. And what is the instantaneous heart rate in the middle of a play and tackle?

Should this be a part of your calcs?


44 posted on 01/05/2023 7:33:24 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: T.B. Yoits

Yep. I agree with you. Head in sand is not a good way to walk through life. Easier, but not right.


45 posted on 01/05/2023 7:34:39 AM PST by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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The real tragedy (or hilarity, depending on your point of view) is watching incapable Freeptards attempt to erase history -- something they perpetually accuse all their bogeymen of doing every daydrinking day LOFL...


46 posted on 01/05/2023 7:35:28 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Mom MD

Every single person I know who got jabbed, double jabbed, and triple jabbed later got very ill multiple times with covid.

I was never jabbed. I have not been sick since before the hysteria.


47 posted on 01/05/2023 7:37:04 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Mom MD

May we assume that Hamlin is in an induced coma, for the sake of his heart and brain recovery??

If so, I have been told that its “impossible” or at least not easily done during this period, to conduct full scans/research on him to determine the cause of his cardiac arrest. Is this true?

If so, then it seems to me, we are all simply guessing what happened.

With so much news coverage, its hard to imagine, this event only happened 60 hours ago. Its still extremely early in his recovery and treatment.


48 posted on 01/05/2023 7:38:16 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

In the OP article there is a Dr mentioned by name who said he gave Hamlin booster shot Dec 26


49 posted on 01/05/2023 7:39:38 AM PST by RWGinger (LGB)
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To: napscoordinator

Oh no. That goes to the point of additional padding or making moves illegal. I’m not for that.
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Add padding and everyone slows down, can’t move as deftly, and figures some way to cheat the padding rules.

Illegal moves. Will need more refs and camreas and replay reviews, probably with AI analysis of the video.

So, let’s just go to virtual video football. Each player has a console. Nobody physically touches anybody. All moves are legal. John Madden Football, live.


50 posted on 01/05/2023 7:40:17 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: Scrambler Bob

It’s funny to go back to the 80s and see how huge the pads were compared to now.


51 posted on 01/05/2023 7:40:56 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I have suffered through medical professionals who were unable to acknowledge that their action resulted in my suffering.

The current procedure based because we need ta get paid medical practice has me terrified of needing surgery of any kind.

Yes, y’all professional and have experience and that experience means you cannot see things that are new and look to be part of your understanding. Most best part is the smarter and better you are the more your unconscious will use existing pattern recognition heuristics because they are close enough. The conscious mind will not be aware that is happening and will harden around the decision being right.

Works really well until it does not.

with the start of the corona i thought it was not a black swan because as a species we have suffered through worse. What i did not anticipate was the global coordination of response, resulting in a much larger impact for bad decisions.


52 posted on 01/05/2023 7:41:04 AM PST by NotQuiteCricket
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To: woodbutcher1963

Ohio closer to creating office to monitor potential federal overreach
https://www.theohiopressnetwork.com/news/ohio/ohio-closer-to-creating-office-to-monitor-potential-federal-overreach/article_6654c0dc-79d0-5717-b0e7-29b73157c0dc.html

Perhaps the Ohio AG might want to poke around as to why there is so much federal involvement around the bedside of a football player. The incident did take place in Ohio, after all.


53 posted on 01/05/2023 7:45:48 AM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Dr. Sivana

There is a 38 year old ex-jaguar that dropped dead the other day. Big vaxxer. He said anyone not vaxxed should be in jail.

“Get the vaccine for life” I believe was on his tweet.

Now he’s dead.

Draw whatever conclusions you will.


54 posted on 01/05/2023 7:47:24 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (q11)
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To: Scrambler Bob

That’s a good point. I watched a video by a doctor describing the electrical currents of a heartbeat and he pointed out the 5 ms window. He didn’t mention heart rate.

But would it make a difference? Suppose it is a 5 ms window at 60 beats per minute. At 120 bpm, you’d have a 2.5 ms window, but you’d have that window would occur twice as often, right? So wouldn’t the 5 ms window NOT be a function of heart rate?


55 posted on 01/05/2023 7:48:54 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beake)
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To: Mom MD

So why the increase in pilots from the Air Force being med boarded out for myocarditis after being vaxxed?


56 posted on 01/05/2023 7:51:25 AM PST by mouse_35
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To: NotQuiteCricket
Yes, y’all professional and have experience and that experience means you cannot see things that are new and look to be part of your understanding.

My apologies. My screen name is based on a comic book character of the mad-scientist variety. I have no doctorate, my degree is from Christendom College in Political Science, and my like of work has generally been in IT.

Thankfully, I do not have to see doctors much, and hunted during COVID for a family practitioner who did not require masks (found one!). My extended family does have conditions, and when they are wrong, they can be really wrong. My wife's family is in Canada, where the problem is much worse, suffers from even MORE government influence, and leaves almost no choice for much of anything, including choice of doctor.
57 posted on 01/05/2023 7:55:22 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: PGR88

Update on Damar, he is awake and improving. I don’t have time to do a new thread, but an update was just issued.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-11603061/Damar-Hamlin-AWAKE-showing-signs-improvement-says-Bills-teammate-Kaiir-Elam.html


58 posted on 01/05/2023 7:55:58 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: JSM_Liberty

He’s got a team of judges? Like are we talking Judge Wopner judges or more like talent show judges?


59 posted on 01/05/2023 8:02:17 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: woodbutcher1963

“Please do no comment UNTIL you have read the ENTIRE article including the tackling breakdown description.”

And break the longstanding FR tradition of making vitriolic comments based on what the commenter assumes to be the content of the article based on the headline alone?

Good luck.


60 posted on 01/05/2023 8:02:27 AM PST by unlearner (RIP America. July 4, 1776 - December 13, 2022. )
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