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Why is Trump backing a loser like McCarthy?
FR ^ | Jan 4 | RandFan

Posted on 01/04/2023 1:55:29 AM PST by RandFan

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To: tlozo

Technically no one has enough votes to be speaker. Proven by the 3 votes yesterday.


121 posted on 01/04/2023 5:48:43 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn
Technically no one has enough votes to be speaker. Proven by the 3 votes yesterday.

Yes, but McCarthy whether you like him or not, clearly has the most votes.

122 posted on 01/04/2023 5:50:54 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: RandFan

Trump may have felt obliged to step in because he understands, more than many here, that this clusterf*ck is making the republicans look like a clown act to the American people. It is destroying their credibility as a serious force for reform, even as we speak.

Yes McCarthy is weak tea at best but that is a problem the gop has inherited by their own neglect in not finding a more effective caucus leader during the last 20 years. One failed politician after another. It won’t be solved by a squalid mudfight in full view of a skeptical public and gleeful media.


123 posted on 01/04/2023 5:53:41 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Hostage

Wow great post and I will check out that documentary

I want him to succeed as from my POV he was the best president in my lifetime and the first not to start a war or major conflict

But things like this don’t help do they


124 posted on 01/04/2023 5:58:03 AM PST by RandFan
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To: rellic
1. 2. 3.

We are in such trouble.........And yeah it runs deeper than those 3 I know.


125 posted on 01/04/2023 5:58:37 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: RandFan

Trump has some bad habits.


126 posted on 01/04/2023 6:04:33 AM PST by GingisK
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To: RandFan

Trust Sessions. 5-D chess.


127 posted on 01/04/2023 6:09:28 AM PST by 2big2fail (.)
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To: RandFan

McCarthy is just the latest incarnation of loser Republican House leaders, in the same vein as Paul Ryan and John Boehner. They are not fighters, they are compromisers (i.e., losers). They are Exhibit 1 in why the government keeps moving left.


128 posted on 01/04/2023 6:26:33 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: central_va

Exactly. This meglomaniac is saying “I earned this”.....

True leaders don’t plead for leadership. They are chosen.


129 posted on 01/04/2023 6:40:37 AM PST by vespa300
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To: RandFan

Trump is a smart businessman & a great patriot, but his political smarts are seriously lacking.


130 posted on 01/04/2023 6:45:27 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: ScottinVA

They would be committing political suicide voting for the rat.


131 posted on 01/04/2023 6:46:24 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: vespa300

“True leaders don’t plead for leadership. They are chosen.”

George Washington.


132 posted on 01/04/2023 6:53:26 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: RandFan

I think Trump wants McCarthy as Speaker so everyone gets to see how bad he is. Its all about bringing down the cabal.


133 posted on 01/04/2023 7:05:50 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

He also can’t win upsetting the conservative constitutionalist wing of the party.

Rock to the left. Hard place to the right.


134 posted on 01/04/2023 7:08:44 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: tlozo

The “most” is still not enough as shown by 3 votes yesterday.


135 posted on 01/04/2023 7:09:49 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: dfwgator

Indeed many of the voters said they won’t vote for him unless they get a committee seat period.

Suck ups always look out for self to hell for everyone else.


136 posted on 01/04/2023 7:10:19 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: RandFan

Trump is a realist on this issue. The clerk of the house of Reps will become the de facto speaker if the Rs stay paralyzed too long, The clerk is a liberal black woman who will totally favor the Dims.


137 posted on 01/04/2023 7:21:10 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That would be an example of nothing fails like losing. McCarthy being the loser in this picture.


138 posted on 01/04/2023 7:36:06 AM PST by OKSooner (Don't try to beat the cops at their own game.)
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To: RandFan

Paul Ryan and Trump are on the 2 opposite sides of the Banana Republican party and both endorsed McCarthy..

That places McCarthy in a very delicate position.

Trump can help him.
Ryan can’t.
Trump is a Majority leader of a MAGA party that’s just itching to destroy RINOs as much as any Democrat..

And some may be willing to bring McCarthy/Ryan’s wing down..

Trump can help McCarthy.
Trump can humble McCarthy.

There aren’t a lot of options for McCarthy.
Dance to Trump’s tune..
Trump backing him gives many pause but Trump backs lots of people that eventually show the whole world what they really are:

See Bush,Bush, McCain,Romney for example.

Those were perceived on ‘our side ‘ till Trump.

McCarthy is doubted.
McCarthy is chosen to reveal what he really is made of.

Trump gives people an opportunity to blow it.

Like it or not, we’ve all had 6+ years of constant wake up calls about the R’s.
We’ve known the D’s..
Thanks to Trump


139 posted on 01/04/2023 8:16:33 AM PST by delchiante
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To: ArcadeQuarters
His policy instincts are good but he has no ability whatsoever to identify good people. None. He should probably stay out of the endorsement game and let someone else do the hiring if he’s elected again.

When Trump was elected President he had no control over who the GOP had in place as the House Speaker and Senate GOP leader. He's smart enough to know that it makes no sense to antagonize people in another branch of government who he can't control.

He has even less control over the process now.

When you see these 20+ "renegades" supporting Jim Jordan in the House Speaker vote even though Jordan is supporting McCarthy, you get the sense that these people either aren't very smart or they've got their own agenda in the works.

140 posted on 01/04/2023 8:54:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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