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To: cuban leaf

I never understood why Hybrids were never marketed better. They give the best of the electric with the reliability of an ICE powertrain. It would reduce pollution and be usable. I have never bought into the whole NWO, secret cabal, UN agenda stuff. It is more about who has money invested where. That is the drive to force electric.


34 posted on 12/23/2022 6:54:20 AM PST by WalkerinSC
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To: WalkerinSC

I always thought it was strange that the Toyota Prius was nearly universally scorned by FReepers when it has some of the best automotive engineering ever.


44 posted on 12/23/2022 7:10:29 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: WalkerinSC
I never understood why Hybrids were never marketed better.

I traded in my 2003 Escape with a V6 for a 2008 Mercury Mariner Hybrid. Leather seats with seat heat. In-dash navigation. Sirius/XM radio. Nicer than a base Escape. Ford promised 32 MPG and a $3,000 tax rebate. Reality? A $1200 tax rebate. Winter mileage where heat is require (-15F to +32F) was 21 MPG. Summer mileage where AC is needed (86F to 103F) was 26 MPG. About 3 weeks in Spring/Fall are mild enough (73F) to ditch heat and AC and run in "ECO" mode. That yields 28 MPG unless driving downhill with a tailwind where 32 MPG happened ONE DAY in six years of ownership. The goofy electrical system that comes with a hybrid meant I never even tried to install my ham radio gear in the vehicle. The towing capacity was much reduced compared to the 2003 V6 Escape. The cruise control did scary shit in the mountains. I had to disengage it leaving West Yellowstone for Idaho. The ICE was nearing red line RPMs climbing to the summit between MT and ID.

We traded the Mariner for a 2015 F150 Crew Cab with EcoBoost V6. The EcoBoost gets better mileage than the Mariner every did. We've played the hybrid game. Once is enough.

102 posted on 12/23/2022 9:12:14 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: WalkerinSC

The thing is, EV’s don’t really reduce pollution. What they do is reduce local pollution. That is, they are not much better than ICE vehicles, but a lot of the pollution is generated at the power source. I’ve said for years that the EV’s in my state should have a bumper sticker that says, “Powered by coal”.

And CO2 is a GOOD gas, so it’s not even in the pollution equation. We could use more of it.

Explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv1IPNZQao


115 posted on 12/23/2022 11:30:45 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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