Posted on 12/21/2022 12:42:03 PM PST by ransomnote
Good question. Another is why MacGregor has a cult of personality following here.
“who is the average American supposed to believe????”
None of them. We need to stay out of it. Not our fight. Not our problem.
The war will end soon enough and I don’t care which side wins. My money is on Russia. More money, resources, troops and equipment.
Ukraine has nothing left aside from what the west is providing and those stocks are almost depleted.
I believe it is game over for Ukraine.
I didn’t say any of what you’re spouting. I said MacGregor is totally unreliable.
whenever i see mention of “Colonel” MacGregor, i get this mental image of Captain Kangaroo and Colonel Sanders morphed together ...
What is it about doing well during an ongoing war being fought in your cities and countryside that would mean no more money or weapons are needed?
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BINGO! IT IS NOT A WAR BEING FOUGHT IN MYYYY CITIES AND COUNTRYSIDE.
For months I have heard: Putin’s done, Russia is done...On going war??
So, ansel12, tell me how long is long enough? Let’s see, Afghanistan was 20 years with 2,540 deaths and over 20,000 wounded—lots to show for that...Viet Nam, 7000 deaths over 8 years...
How much money is enough??
I have heard we are actually paying UKRAINIAN PENSIONS??!!??
So Russia is on it’s last leg, but we need to send more money continually as well as state-of-art equipment~~Patriot missiles, defense systems, etc. to this corrupt country...In what is openly being admitted to be a PROXY war with Russia.
Tally is at least $110B, and note Germany, NATO et. al. are not sending more money.
This is Biden’s distraction war. Empty strategic reserves, our treasury, our weapons armory.
Yet, we now have unfettered invasion of OUR border plus many hurting due to inflation.
Perhaps if Zelensky and Putin had been encouraged to sit down and negotiate in March, the Comedian-in-Chief drag dancer would not have needed to be flown here on AIRFORCE 2 to beg for money. He may be a pawn, but he allowed himself to get into a fight he could not finance...
Frankly, I don’t think my kids and their children should be financing this undeclared war with Russia in perpetuity.
You didn’t explain how a country fighting a war as it is being invaded would suddenly not need money or weapons in the middle of that war.
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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled TRANSCRIPT of key remarks by Colonel MacGregor: Ukraine is depleted and doomed, is blaming Russia for war crimes Ukrainians commit, Russia is well-equipped and no longer holding back, Williams wrote: OMG this reads like total propaganda.
Russia is winning even when it retreated and even when Russia itself admitted to reverses.
But loveable Russia didn’t really try because all they wanted was to negotiate.
But now they REALLY mean it this time.
He actually says Ukraine has always been losing and is all lies.
So tell me comrade MacGregor.
How the F after 10 months is Russia not sitting in Kiev and why weren’t they there 9 months ago?
Dear Drama Queen,
If you read the transcript, then you have the answer you seek.
If you're not going to read the transcript and yet plan to emote for us all your angst, count me out.
“Bull. Shit”
Im not picking on you, just using your comment as typical of the vitriol that is reflexively returned at any information that may indicate anything ukrainian military invincibility.
Neither you, nor MacGregor can know, conclusively, what the situation is. Ive seen MacGregor interviewed and he seems to have some justification for his opinions on the situation. Doesnt mean he is correct, but he could be.
The typical retorts that folks present (including yours) to refute a bad prognosis for ukraine military comes without the type of analysis and reasoning that MacGregor presents.
Attacking MacGregor personally doesnt really cut it. He has some street cred, like him or not.
So present some analysis. You cannot present fact, neither can MacGregor, but the tenor of your vitriol doesnt provide a good look.
Its not unreasonable to say that Russia has a larger military and therefore may press that advantage to defeat Ukraine (my summary of MacGregors commentary)
So any of you folks got anything that can be argued or debated? It appears not.
I believe (my own opinion) that the Ukrainian Military will be crushed sooner or later.
The real discussion that rational people should be having is “what happens then?”
I want to see fewer dead Ukrainians. Too few on here seem to hold the same appreciation for their lives.
So ya got anything other than vitriol?
Oh, but we were continually told Ukraine were winning...All we heard in past few months was “Russians running tail between their legs...Remember??? Ukes winning...Russians on the run.
If Ukraine needs money, maybe they should use THEIR OWN MONEY...Don’t have any? How about Zelensky’s wife ante up some of the $40,000+ Euros she spent in one hour during a PARIS SHOPPING SPREE this week. Or the Oligarchs who have fled...
Better idea...fly the white flag and surrender BEFORE WWIII BEGINS...
Childlike venting.
Seriously? That all you got?
Here’s a suggestion, don’t interlope on a conversation not directed to you if you are going to post drivel. Just rude.
Sheesh.
I read it, word for word.
You have a point?
The thing is, all of the Neocon Supporters here know both the Ukraine situation (being pummeled daily), and the US situation (being out of weapons).
But, unfortunately, we all have to make a living, so, as the Twitter Files (and Stalin, for that matter) showed, people will do what is needed to put food on their table.
You try to sound reasonable.
If you’ve watched M over time and have heard his prior opinions and connections with Russia then you’d understand he is not reliable on this subject.
For example he wants Germany to betray NATO and join with Russia.
He was totally wrong about the Ukraine offensive, and no just saying well Russia will win in the end no matter what is not sufficient.
He accuses us of planning an attack on Russia and he always predicts we will be defeated
He also says we can’t afford to improve our military, so we need to give up
Claimed that our weapons can’t reach the Ukrainian front.
Some of these assertions are absurd and peg him as a pure propagandist.
Russia might win but not because of any analysis by DM.
Typical absurd assertions, oh it’s you BobL.
Funny how you can tell me what I “know “ but you don’t know what you’re talking about.
If we ever have a serious war people like you will be worthless.
“Fly a white flag”. Thanks for the advice.
“Typical absurd assertions”
We understand your assignment here.
You talk like a paranoid.
You know my assignment?
Ok wow, then I know your “assignment”.
“You know my assignment?”
We all do, based on your posting history this past year. It is NOT a state secret.
But we also understand, inflation is tough on all of us, so we have to make a living.
You typed a lot of words but provided no analysis. I get it you dont like MacGregor, but he provided analysis that you were unable to refute. Refute it, dont whine that you dont like some guy.
Why is he wrong? What information do you have to support your opinion?
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