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Weight of electric vehicles could cause 'catastrophic' damage and 'lead to car parks collapsing': Engineers warn Britain's parking facilities were not designed for hulking battery cars
Daily Mail ^ | 12/18/22 | Isolde Walters

Posted on 12/18/2022 2:30:56 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather
I feel like electric vehicles in their current form are the equivalent of the CFL bulbs. Regular bulbs were banned so people had to move to CFL bulbs. But they kinda sucked. They weren't as reliable as they were said to be, weren't as efficient, and produced an unappealing cold hue of light and people in general didn't want them. Then LED bulbs came out and THAT was the real answer.

I would expect that EVs that use a superior battery tech that makes them more effect and less heavy is what is needed before people want to embrace them fully. This current gen is proves that it can be done but it has serious flaws that need to get worked out and that will likely require a different tech basis. And then they will become a realistic solution.

61 posted on 12/18/2022 7:07:58 PM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: citizen

An engine and radiator weigh much less than an EV battery. In overall weight EVs of all sizes outweigh comparable ECE vehicles by around 500-800 pounds. Road wear isn’t that different, the real problem is safety. When a heavier EV hits a comparable ICE vehicle, the ICE vehicle is in trouble, that extra weight is dangerous to the lighter vehicle.


62 posted on 12/18/2022 7:38:09 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Tell It Right
CNN...The Ford F-150 Lightning will weigh about 1,600 pounds more than a similar gas-powered F-150 truck.
0.8 tons more for a small truck is quite a difference....Then there's the higher particulates from increased tire wear, as well, not to mention the cost for sTurdier tires or more frequent replacement.
63 posted on 12/18/2022 7:40:41 PM PST by citizen (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people - John Adams 1798)
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To: Libloather

“”Travel, except in your local village, will be reserved for the elite that rule over us.””

What they will never teach in regular American government schools is the Soviet internal passport system (papers), and how it was used to control and restrict most people. In the USSR, one needed ‘papers’ to travel anywhere outside of the local, county-size area. Bus, train, bicycle, walking. If you did not have your ‘papers’ you remained in the small area. Some of the dirty LARGE secret is they did not issue ‘papers’ to over 80% of the populace. Those who were fortunate enough to have them could lose the privilege at any time, for any reason. Or, for no reason at all. To maintain the internal terror, they would make examples of perfectly innocent people. If you complained, off to the Gulag.

The DemocRATS envied this control, and would love to institute it here.


64 posted on 12/18/2022 8:40:05 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Yet another poorly thought out aspect of the forced EV conversion?"

I'm sure that China thought all this out before they issued orders to the White House to push EVs.

65 posted on 12/18/2022 8:40:46 PM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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To: Libloather

Challenger Hellcat weighs 400-800lbs more than a Tesla model 3


66 posted on 12/18/2022 8:41:13 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Yes, the EV batteries are heavy, I undestand that.

My question is how heavy is an EV electric motor, plus associated equipment, as compared to the weight of a complete IC engine system. An EV motor must be heavy but is it as heavy as a gasoline engine? Motors no doubt come in varying sizes, as do engine blocks. I also assume each type of vehicle will have a transmission and/or a transaxle, etc.

I searched, all responses refer to battery weight, which are heavy as we know.


67 posted on 12/18/2022 10:59:15 PM PST by citizen (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people - John Adams 1798)
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To: ConservativeInPA

‘’a retarded Swedish teenager’’.

As apt a description of that vicious little snot nose as I’ve ever seen.

That kid needs to be horsewhipped.


68 posted on 12/18/2022 11:20:33 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: natalie227

I believe what CFW is trying to point
out, is a total ICE for EV swap of
vehicles is not sustainable and therefore
will deprive those in rural areas of the
necessary energy to charge their vehicles
to the ranges they need to travel.
Our infrastructure is wholly inadequate
and if updated, even then, there won’t
be enough power to go around. Thereby,
limiting travel. Charging your EV from
a battery bank energized by solar panels
takes a couple days of bright sunshine.
Cloud cover and lower temps reduce that
charging time even more, especially when
your house demands heat and lights relying
on those panels. People don’t care too
much for freezing to death for the sake
of keeping your EV charged up and ready.
Wether it’s the governments intention
to limit our travels or not, your
traveling will be limited.


69 posted on 12/19/2022 12:31:00 AM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
So reduce the allowed capacity of existing parking garages by 50% and build twice the number of garages.

I parked in an older 5 level parking deck for work. Public parking was on the top floor and rented spaces below. Due to the age of the building, engineers decided to move public parking to the ground floor to reduce vibration stress, etc. I believe they also reduced the number of rental hang tags because if I came in late, the top floor was mostly empty.

70 posted on 12/19/2022 2:13:50 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: citizen

There are so many factors to consider that it’s not meaningful to compare the weights of individual components. What matters is the actual weight of the complete vehicle. Making that comparison more complicated is that not all EVs have comparable ICE models (same general size and design).

One model that comes to mind is the ICE VW Golf and the outwardly identical e-Golf (no longer made).

The e-Golf outweighed its ICE version by about 450 pounds (a 15% increase).


71 posted on 12/19/2022 5:30:01 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake pandemic, fake vaccine, fake election, fake president.)
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To: wetgundog

I would imagine that many car park businesses will disallow electric cars soon. Would have already, except the cultists would object loudly.


72 posted on 12/19/2022 7:13:57 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Lean-Right

The grid will get figured out in the next 10 years.
Siemens just came out with a low cost home charger that by passes the homes service panel so homeowners do not have to $$$ upgrade it. The charger is installed on the outside meter. You pull off the meter head, install the adapter and plug back in the meter head, drill a hole in the wall and run the cable to the charging spot inside the garage.
INstaslled in less than an hour for most homes.
Ev’s will become successfull due to innovations like these and these new innovations are happening everyday.


73 posted on 12/19/2022 7:38:19 AM PST by natalie227
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To: GaltAdonis

The fires that ensues


74 posted on 12/19/2022 9:25:57 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: natalie227
Ev’s will become successfull due to innovations like these and these new innovations are happening everyday.

Cool. It looks like it will have to be installed by the utility company or one of their contractors. I've read a few articles about it, and it appears to me a mini fuse panel is also installed between the meter head and the charging unit. It appears to be vaporware until early next year. I haven't seen a price yet, but there are a few utility companies that have given it the green light.

75 posted on 12/19/2022 9:35:59 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: Vaduz
"The fires that ensues..."

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Yup. Here's an EV-caused fire in a parking structure in Delhi, India from back on June 8th.

".. Over a hundred EVs and E-rickshaws gutted..."

I didn't know there was such a thing as an 'E-rickshaw'.


76 posted on 12/19/2022 3:04:08 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: GaltAdonis

Now that’s a fire to remember no EV’s.


77 posted on 12/19/2022 3:13:07 PM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: GaltAdonis; Vaduz
Yup - E-rickshaws are a 'thing' in India.


78 posted on 12/19/2022 3:14:05 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: PAR35
1964 Lincoln Continental (5055 lbs)


79 posted on 12/19/2022 3:20:35 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: GaltAdonis

As bad as our power grid is here in LA manual operated rickshaws will be the in thing.


80 posted on 12/20/2022 7:20:58 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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