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Airlines are lobbying for a change to federal regulations that could put one pilot in the cockpit
CBS News ^ | 12/08/2022 | PETER GREENBERG

Posted on 12/11/2022 10:22:14 AM PST by DFG

In the airline business, there are two cost factors the airlines can never control: fuel and labor. And as technology improves — and pilot salaries increase — there's been a controversial move lately by the industry to try to amend what's known as part 121 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. That's the federal air regulation that requires air carriers to have two pilots in the cockpit at all times.

The airlines have been quietly lobbying that the single-pilot approach would quickly solve the staffing problem caused by the pilot shortage and that technology has vastly improved to allow for safe operation of a single-pilot flight.

There's language in a new bill now introduced in Congress — the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization bill — asking the Federal Aviation Administration to reconsider part 121 and to allow the use of a single pilot operation, first in cargo aircraft.

Not surprisingly, airline pilots are loudly protesting this idea, claiming that it would diminish a safety discipline and culture that has been responsible for the safest 25 years in commercial aviation in the history of aviation. Pilots unions argue it's all about the airlines saving money and could compromise safety.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airline; aviation; copilot; part121; pilot; recipefordisaster
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1 posted on 12/11/2022 10:22:14 AM PST by DFG
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Who is going to land the plane when the vaxxed pilot has a heart attack?


2 posted on 12/11/2022 10:24:34 AM PST by Othniel77
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To: DFG

Yeah, remember the other week with the pilot had a “medical episode” and the co-pilot had to land the plane? That probably happens more often than we know. This would be a recipe for disaster.


3 posted on 12/11/2022 10:26:03 AM PST by CFW
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To: DFG

“Is there anyone on board that can fly a plane?”


4 posted on 12/11/2022 10:26:57 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: DFG

The hardest part of flying a plane of any complexity is cockpit management and communication demands on the radio. It gets extremely busy at critical phases of flight. The aspect of decision making is the left seat job regardless.


5 posted on 12/11/2022 10:27:06 AM PST by blackdog (The head, hands, and heart, serve even further than the purse. )
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To: Othniel77

Maybe have at least one flight attendant that can emergency land a plane using automatic systems.


6 posted on 12/11/2022 10:28:43 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: CFW

Yes, I brought that up on another forum discussing this subject. The airliner pilot slumped over and died instantly in his seat 30 minutes after takeoff and the copilot had to take over. If there was no copilot, the plane would have crashed killing all aboard.


7 posted on 12/11/2022 10:31:05 AM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: DFG

Not only no but hell no.


8 posted on 12/11/2022 10:31:17 AM PST by DarrellZero
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Technology already makes it possible for planes to takeoff and land by themselves. In the future there will just be a pilot and a dog in the cockpit. The dog’s job will be to bite the pilot if he touches anything.


9 posted on 12/11/2022 10:31:22 AM PST by Roadrunner383
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10 posted on 12/11/2022 10:32:19 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: DFG

The pilot shortage is of their own making since they changed the required hours to be a first officer to 1500 vs 300. If the lowered the hours on regionals first officers to say 300 to 500 hours, that would allow more people to get the hours in other than military pilots. Maybe you could to do these for the cargo airlines as well.


11 posted on 12/11/2022 10:33:01 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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Who is going to land the plane when the vaxxed pilot has a heart attack?

'Come fly the friendly skies...in a lawn dart'

12 posted on 12/11/2022 10:33:10 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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.... and land by themselves.


“Cat III Autoland”.

Incredibly expensive, and available only on certain airplanes and at certain airports.


13 posted on 12/11/2022 10:33:39 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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14 posted on 12/11/2022 10:33:54 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Roadrunner383

That joke was mildly amusing 40 years ago ...


15 posted on 12/11/2022 10:34:37 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CFW

I am not opposed to it with an additional medical sign off and the autoland AutoPilots we are just now seeing in GA. The over 50 crowd in the white shirts on the jumbos should fight it. They already have 2 or three crews on any 8+ hour flight. But for a 30 year old to be flying 6 to less than 50 paid passengers with some sort of assistant on call the risk is about the same. The commuters just dont have the profit margin to support being the minor leagues with deep bench anymore.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/blog/aviation/garmin-autoland-achieves-faa-certification-for-general-aviation-aircraft/


16 posted on 12/11/2022 10:34:49 AM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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The cockpit is locked and no one from outside can get in. So if the pilot is incapable of operating the plane then it won’t matter if there is a plane full of pilots...everyone dies.


17 posted on 12/11/2022 10:35:04 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Othniel77
Who is going to land the plane when the vaxxed pilot has a heart attack?

The plane will land itself.

Pretty much everything involved with flying passenger jets has become computerized. Really, the pilots taxi to the runway and push a button and that's about it. They spend the rest of the flight monitoring gauges and taking naps.

Passenger liners could operate entirely unmanned except the flying public is not ready at this time to accept pilotless airplanes.

18 posted on 12/11/2022 10:35:16 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Othniel77

One of the flight attendants, I suppose. Or maybe one of the passengers.


19 posted on 12/11/2022 10:36:28 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: DFG

And of he has a heart attack?


20 posted on 12/11/2022 10:36:52 AM PST by GOPJ (If OLD twitter management had stood up to Homeland & FBI goons they's be hurt 7 ways from Sunday)
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