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November 22nd – Ukraine is about to be annihilated (Douglas MacGregor)
The Saker ^ | November 22, 2022 | Colonel Douglas MacGregor

Posted on 11/23/2022 2:52:07 PM PST by Cathi

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To: freeandfreezing

What does Zman know about Pedo Joe ? Pedo Joe makes the cash flow ! Zman doesn’t give a crap about Ukrainians, neither does Biden and neither do you. if you did you would in the trenches dear boy.

61 posted on 11/23/2022 5:49:19 PM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Cathi

You are never going to have an analytical conversation on this forum
It has lost its credibility as a place to read informed posts and discussions about this war
Do you have an alternative?
If not dm me


62 posted on 11/23/2022 5:51:55 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: silverleaf

The conversation about this tragic conflict has sucked here on FR.

I am not for Putin. I am not for Zelensky and his WEF compatriots.

I do feel sorry for and pray for the Ukrainians and Russian people who are puppets in a tragic play by the elites and for the elites.

I don’t know what is going to happen. The Russian forces appear inept, but Russia has a history of ineptitude and eventually they find the right guy and sheer numbers and mass wins the day. However, I don’t believe the war is nearly as popular in Russia as some do and those being drafted do not seem very committed to it nor do I think the Russian army is the juggernaut that many believed it to be.

I just want it to end. This is very dangerous for the entire world given the nuclear arms situation. It is horrible for the Ukrainian and Russian peoples who both have about as much say in this conflict as you and I do about the southwest border.

MacGregor has been wrong to this point, but his core belief about the conflict has never wavered in that sheer mass, much like a heavyweight fighter dragging a smaller and quicker foe into the later rounds, will win the day. It is hard to argue the point if the smaller guy is wearing down and the big guy has absorbed the best effort.

Sadly, we are going to find out who is right.


63 posted on 11/23/2022 6:05:54 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: chuckee

If the Ukraine wins, you ain’t seen nothing yet on how much this has cost the American taxpayer.

We will rebuild the nation and NATO will stab us in the back as they always do.

All things being equal, I would like for Russia to return to their borders, but the damage is done and we will all pay for it as US citizens either way.

PS - if Russia wins the Ukraine will be a craphole for decades assuming people stay because the Russians don’t have the money or the will to rebuild the nation.


64 posted on 11/23/2022 6:08:36 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Jonty30

The Vicar of Christ, literally means Instead of Christ, or Anti Christ. The RCC has fine people within it, but it is rotten from the head down.


65 posted on 11/23/2022 8:10:12 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: freeandfreezing

I hope for world peace. I can’t wait until Christ returns and we finally get it. Until then, this is just SSDD.


66 posted on 11/23/2022 8:12:28 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: volunbeer

Amen.


67 posted on 11/23/2022 8:32:40 PM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Cathi
...now we are looking at a force of almost 700,000 troops surrounding Ukraine; the large probabilities of offenses beginning in the next 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 weeks

For those paying attention, Macgregor is starting to revise what he said. He started saying Russia would launch a major offensive last month, and could have a million man army by January. Now Russia is going to have 700,000 ready to invade Ukraine maybe by February. What Russia has next, he does not want to get embarrassed like he was while on air with Tucker Carlson during the Kharkiv offensive.

This is all logistically impossible. Russia's upper limit of 160,000 to 200,000 soldiers they can deploy has not changed. They do not have enough tents or winter gear and are improvising winter field shelters. There is no way Russia can deploy 700,000 to a million man army when they have so much trouble supporting what they have in Ukraine already.

68 posted on 11/24/2022 3:05:38 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: TheConservator

I’ve seen a Cray I and a Cray II in operation.


69 posted on 11/24/2022 6:11:27 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Cathi

Posted on 23rd November “we are looking at a force of almost 700,000 troops surrounding Ukraine; the large probabilities of offenses beginning in the next 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 weeks; “

I’m going to get back to you on 26th January and point out how wrong you were. Again


70 posted on 12/04/2022 2:27:47 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cathi
Nope, the Russians were lying that they ever saw Ukraine as a brother slavic state. Here are examples of their blatant lies

and here's what Putin said when he first invaded Ukraine in 2014 …I also want to address the people of Ukraine. I sincerely want you to understand us: we do not want to harm you in any way, or to hurt your national feelings. We have always respected the territorial integrity of the Ukrainian state, incidentally, unlike those who sacrificed Ukraine’s unity for their political ambitions. They flaunt slogans about Ukraine’s greatness, but they are the ones who did everything to divide the nation. Today’s civil standoff is entirely on their conscience. I want you to hear me, my dear friends. Do not believe those who want you to fear Russia, shouting that other regions will follow Crimea. We do not want to divide Ukraine; we do not need that.

address by Putin in 2014 at kremlin.ru website

That is why in negotiations with liars like the current Russian leadership: words mean nothing. It is painfully and ridiculously obvious that any possible dialogue could not result in anything of any practical consequence. The current Russian leadership will only ‘negotiate’ in order to buy time to attack again.

71 posted on 12/04/2022 2:43:45 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Jonty30

“three world wars in Europe before the end times. This could be the third real world war”
There already have been 4 world wars with Europe involved

1. The 7 years war, fought in Europe, north America and Asia

2. The Napoleonic war fought in Europe, Africa, Asia and south America https://origins.osu.edu/review/global-reach-napoleonic-wars?language_content_entity=en

3. The great war

4. World war “two”


72 posted on 12/04/2022 2:48:20 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: jarwulf

I have a compilation of lies by the pro Putin posters stretching back to last December 2021 when they were mocking anyone who said Russia would invade Ukraine a second time


73 posted on 12/04/2022 2:49:45 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Jonty30

You mean Epperson.

It’s loaded with errors.

The first, I see in the 2008 edition of this book that i have is in the preface:

“The book that you are about to read was completed in June, 1989 and was based upon the research that I have done for 27 years. All the signs that I was reading about indicated that THE NEW WORLD ORDER was scheduled to start on January 1, 2000. This obviously did not happen on that date.
However, that does not mean that my research was incorrect. It means that another date has been selected and that this date has truly been kept secret from honest researchers such as myself”
He’s changing the goal posts. “Oh, it was supposed yo start 11 years after i published, but it didn’t happen. Oh, well the dates have changed yo 11 years from now... oh...”


74 posted on 12/04/2022 2:54:28 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Jonty30

You mean Epperson.

It’s loaded with errors.

Another one, in Epperson’s third chapter he introduces us to the New Age world ruler “Lord Maitreya” who has been living high in the Himalaya Mountains since 1977 preparing to take over the world. In 1990 Epperson suggested that Maitreya’s descent from the mountains was imminent. The closing line of the chapter reads, “So the world awaits the visible appearance of Lord Maitreya.”

So Maitreya is pushing 80 now and what....


75 posted on 12/04/2022 2:56:26 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: jacknhoo

“The West will not let Russia end this war. “

Russia can end this war tomorrow by just leaving the 15% territory of Ukraine it has now (down from 27% in March) or they will get chased out with thousands of Russian soldiers dead


76 posted on 12/04/2022 8:31:44 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

That’s false. The Ukrainians since 2004 have been trying to get away from the corrupt Moscow mode of governance.

They first applied to join NATO in 2008 along with Georgia. That was rejected by Germany and France for fear of “provoking Russia “. 6 weeks after the rejection Putin invaded Georgia.

6 years later he invaded Ukraine and grabbed territory and created a frozen conflict.


77 posted on 12/04/2022 8:35:30 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Good point. Would one call the 30 years war a world war though? Unlike the others I thought it was fought in just Europe, but I may be wrong


78 posted on 12/04/2022 8:38:18 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Jonty30

In the 7 years war you also had

On the British side
1. The Nizam of Hyderabad
2. The Carnatic sultanate
4. Cherokee

On the French side
1. The India based Mughal empire
2. The algonquin federation

In the Napoleonic wars
The British side: the Ottoman empire
The French side the Qajar Iranian empire


79 posted on 12/04/2022 8:44:05 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Brian “Russia is probably going to either slice off Odessa or the eastern half of Ukraine.”
You could have said that in February or March.

But since March the Russians have been pushed back continuously.

They controlled 27% of Ukraine in March.

Now they control about 15% and losing more


80 posted on 12/04/2022 8:45:38 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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