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Study finds Medicare advantage may put complex cancer surgery patients at a disadvantage (Doctor choice issues)
Medical Xpress / City of Hope National Medical Center / Journal of Clinical Oncology ^ | Nov. 21, 2022 | Zen Logsdon / Mustafa Raoof et al

Posted on 11/21/2022 9:37:15 PM PST by ConservativeMind

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To: metmom

I have a separate prescription plan……also good and paid for by my former employer.

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21 posted on 11/22/2022 12:27:56 AM PST by Mears (.)
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To: Mears

We have to use Medicare’s Rx plan and the meds I am on are ridiculously expensive on it.

Mr. mm and I have found Good Rx to be more cost effective, but nowhere near what our prescription plan was before.


22 posted on 11/22/2022 12:35:59 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: ConservativeMind
When my time rolled up to go on Medicare, I opted to use the managed retiree Medigap program through my employer. For a person with this option, it can reduce if not eliminate headaches and frustrations navigating the insurance space.

What this meant for me is dealing with specialized insurance pros that are not working on commission. Every single insurance provider is at their fingertips with no commission bias weighing into recommendations.

I strongly recommend that anyone in the Medicare world to go with this kind of retained insurance broker option. Heck, even if you've got a past employer you worked with some years ago in the past, I recommend calling that company's benefits department or person to get a referral to their retained retiree insurance broker - It might work and is worth looking into.

One hitch to this is that when you move to a different permanent address, you need to telephone the former employer benefits to update the new address. This is because their employee/retiree data base has to exactly match the address the insurance provider has. I had this problem once and found out the hard way when benefits were temporarily denied. What a hassle! Also, if there are any fundamental foul ups in employee records, this can through a wrench in things.

Example, the company's record for my birthday got fouled up. I would call former employer's benefits and “fix it”, fix it with the insurance broker and fix it with the insurance companies directly and still the error kept getting propagated through computers. Finally got fed up and worked up the corporate chain until getting to the corporate VP for HR (30k employees). This was during Covid crap and he was working at home, crying baby in the room and all. I kept on his case until he personally fixed the problem via his high level computer authorization. If he had copped out, my next call was to the President of the company.

It wasn't planning for this but by the luck of my birth year, I had 3 options for Medigap tiers - HMO, PPO and Cadillac. I opted for the Plan F Cadillac, which has since been discontinued by Medicare. However, I'm grandfathered in so all is good for me. I can always downgrade but can never go back up.

At the present time:

Transamerica for health

Aetna for prescription

Cigna for vision, hearing, dental

23 posted on 11/22/2022 1:04:46 AM PST by Hootowl99
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To: Mears

Overall, I’m satisfied with it, too. Regular Medicare and premium and I carried over my Anthem BCBS Plan F insurance into retirement and Medicare with it for the supplemental.

The two cover everything as long as whatever it is done (in a hospital) is coded medically necessary. I haven’t had to pay a dime for three times in the hospital - all ICU (with surgery on the last) in the last 5 years. Also, never get a bill or have a co pay with my doctors. My Plan F premium is high, but it’s a known quantity and well worth it IMO.


24 posted on 11/22/2022 1:17:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: hinckley buzzard

Exactly, if you like to be controlled, limited doctor choices, and pay more, you will love the advantage (for the insurance companies) plan…

I never seriously considered it after I saw how the game was played.


25 posted on 11/22/2022 1:20:32 AM PST by CalTexan
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To: ConservativeMind
Key term is HMO .
Always pick a PPO plan over a HMO .
PPO plans give you flexibility .
26 posted on 11/22/2022 2:30:40 AM PST by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evil)
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To: ConservativeMind

Typical Hit Piece Quietly Funded By WHO ?

These Obvious Smear Pieces Are Always Quietly Funded and the Source Never Divulged .


27 posted on 11/22/2022 3:03:05 AM PST by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evi)
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To: ConservativeMind

Yeah,my CM’are cardiac related, exercise and diet have helped tremendously. I have outlived my prognosis so all is good.


28 posted on 11/22/2022 3:19:56 AM PST by buckalfa (Kilroy was there, but who was he?)
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To: peggybac

We researched Advantage vs Supplemental plans as I was turning 65.

We went with Supplemental Plan G, and believe we made the right choice. Ours is through Mutual Of Omaha.

A couple of my quilting friends were fine with Advantage UNTIL major health problems arose. One lady broke her back. Although there was a surgical procedure that could fix that certain problem, her plan refused to cover it. Solution was to lie on her back for a few months. It worked in the end but the surgery would have had her back on her feet after a couple weeks.

I’ve had cancer, mastectomy, hip replacement and a few other procedures and never paid a cent after relatively small deductible was satisfied. I chose my doctors.

The cost monthly is higher but in the long run we believe we come out ahead.


29 posted on 11/22/2022 3:46:03 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: ConservativeMind

They’re both lousy choices.

Deep State doesn’t like competition.


30 posted on 11/22/2022 3:49:40 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: gattaca

“I am appealing this because Medicare should pay for cholesterol testing.”

Based on what I’ve learned, there’s not much to be gained from standard cholesterol testing in the first place. If it’s up to me, I won’t bother with it, since all it does is lead to being prescribed statins, which is something that I won’t get near, given my earlier experiences with it.


31 posted on 11/22/2022 4:02:15 AM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 21 degrees, burrr!)
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To: ConservativeMind

Seems misleading as when you go on Medicare and take an Advantage plan you have both plans.

You can chose an out of network doc for the Advantage, but pay more, or you can just omit telling them you have Advantage and just go on plain Part A, B, C, D xy. IMHO


32 posted on 11/22/2022 4:32:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: hinckley buzzard

And she just figured that out? Neither will Sloan Kettering. You take advantage planif you are cheap or have no other options. And I have wealthy cheap friends who have Advantage. Once my husband started talking about switching to save money and I told him he was crazy to consider it. He has chronic medical issues.


33 posted on 11/22/2022 5:17:29 AM PST by gcparent (God Bless America )
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To: ConservativeMind
I'm lucky enough to live just a $1.10 train ride from the best hospital in the world.My "Medicare Advantage" plan allows me to go there and see any doctor I want with no referrals needed. I pay nothing to see my primary care doc and $35 to see a specialist.

It seems to me that this might be a geography issue rather than an insurance issue...but I could be wrong.

34 posted on 11/22/2022 5:30:13 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I Miss Jimmy Carter)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I have such a plan (through Blue Cross) and I can see any doctor...or go to any hospital...that takes Medicare. That means 98% of doctors...and hospitals. That’s one of the main reasons I took the plan. If I develop some rare cancer I want to be able to go to Baltimore...or San Francisco...or Ottumwa,Iowa to see *the* world expert on that cancer.


35 posted on 11/22/2022 5:34:28 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I Miss Jimmy Carter)
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To: buckalfa

I’m on Medicare and have Aetna as well. I’ve had very good experiences with Aetna and have no plans on changing. I had transplant surgery last year, and the total for my surgery was well over $400,000, with ongoing medical monitoring and my prescriptions.
My wife and I get bombarded with the Advantage plans as well. Sure, we can get one of those cheaper plans with low or no premiums, but in the long run, it’s better to stay with what works.

My best to you🙂


36 posted on 11/22/2022 6:25:49 AM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: ConservativeMind

We have Aetna Medicare advantage and I have to say it is Cadillac insurance for the most part.


37 posted on 11/22/2022 6:49:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: PIF
- when you go on Medicare and take an Advantage plan you have both plans. -

I think you're mistaken. Advantage takes the place of Medicare, you can't just run back to Medicare for coverage if you have an Advantage plan. During the annual enrollment period you can switch back to Medicare or vice-versa, but you're stuck with your choice until you change coverage.

38 posted on 11/22/2022 7:01:25 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: BobL

True, doc tried to get me to take a statin and I said no.


39 posted on 11/22/2022 7:18:15 AM PST by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ConservativeMind

How many living people do you know that have had their liver removed, no matter what insurance they have? I don’t know any.


40 posted on 11/22/2022 7:26:32 AM PST by MrKatykelly (Obama was the proof of concept puppet.)
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