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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission; stars & stripes forever

In apologetics, one must always be able to defend the “other side of the coin” when making a definitive statement.

The Mark of the Beast is of absolutely NO qualification in either salvation or damnation.

S&S4E understood the shortcomings of the statement....that is disregarded the work of Jesus.

You opted to engage in sophistry.
I do decline the “bait”.
Shadilay!


2,161 posted on 11/28/2022 11:14:38 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Machine-gun jumblies. How'd I miss that? - Austin Powers 2)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; Pete from Shawnee Mission; stars & stripes forever
The Mark of the Beast is of absolutely NO qualification in either salvation or damnation.

Can't be any more clear than this ...

9) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

10) he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.


11) And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” -- Revelation 14:9-11 (ESV)
2,177 posted on 11/28/2022 12:12:36 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I thought that if you TOOK the mark you are lost at that point, that taking it out you in the Pharisee zone of irretrievable. Is this just semantics within the concept of you could be saved if you desired/cried out for salvation but under the circumstances you won’t, or is it that you are just permanently cut off from denial of the Holy Spirit?


2,459 posted on 11/29/2022 4:26:41 PM PST by Axenolith (WWG1WGA!)
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