In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 11/15/2022 Vol.434, Q Day 1844, haffast wrote: haffast: “New Q” is fake Q.
ransomnote: I've seen this assertion before. I haven't seen anything to critique the content of the Q drops as being counter to Q's interests. I haven't seen the assertion that the Q drops are misleading us or feeding us lies. Is it your opinion that well-intentioned peeps stole Trump's lunch money (his comms) but are trying to help us?
I don't go to 8k much, but do anons there feel that, although Q has many exotic state-of-the art, we've-never-heard-of type capabilities and prevailed against state-driven world-wide cyber attacks, Q finally met their match in the person of Jim Watkins? Or a few larpers?
haffast: Real Q’s last drop was #4953 on Dec 8 2020 17:05:50 (EST)
ransomnote: So, in December of 2020, fresh off the theft of the 2020 elections, Q and Q+ decided they wouldn't need a back channel with which to address the public anymore.
Rather than post "This is the final drop on this board" or provide any other explanation, both Q and Q+ thought it best to just silently walk away having they would no longer need the board we fought so hard to establish and validate as a back channel to the public ever again.
They didn't think any effort should be made to shut it down and they decided to leave it live, because none of our enemies would ever try to use it against us (again).
They couldn't perceive a way enemies could use the board discredit all the content or the Q movement. No one would post crazy manifestos or treasonous threats on the Q board if you just give it to the public.
Supposedly Q/Q+ never though their board would be used by anyone for any purpose if they just left the keys in the ignition and walked away with the motor running.
haffast: To date, a larper/group has posted as fake Q from drop #4954 Jun 24 2022 20:26:19 (EST) to #4962 Nov 11 2022 08:45:15 (EST).
8kun has been compromised since at least B **05/29/21** (Sat) 19:24:40 No.111 on Q’s PRIVATE board /projectdcomms/:
http://web.archive.org/web/20220126231523/https://8kun.top/projectdcomms/res/20.htmlAnons SCREAMED.
ransomnote: Yes. But whose anonymous posters? Ours? Theirs?
haffast:
The next day:
Jim Watkins (PRO)
Jim Watkins @JimWatkins
***May 30, 2021***
·Here is the B update on Gab TV.
https://gab.com/JimWatkins/posts/106324978988930044https://tv.gab.com/channel/jimwatkins/view/b-update-60b3b5c555e0c6ea8421466c
The tripcodes? They are compromised as well as they can be manipulated from the backend of Kun or brute forced. Your FReeq intrepid “autists” and “anons” should be able to dig that up from the trenches of QResearch/Kun. ;)
ransomnote: Personally, I think Q could, after 4 years, say, "Tripcodes? TRIPCODES? We don't need no stinkin' tripcodes!" They have been gaining control of servers/server access and cyber attacks and have removed key assets from black hats so I believe the notion that we understand the true security picture, or breaches, is likely faulty.
In the video you link, Jim Watkins says the Tripcodes are secure (May 30, 2021) and posted a video to that effect on Gab. Why wasn't he concerned that Q might correct him? If Q isn't posting because the Tripcode issue, isn't it a little daring for Watkins to lie to the public about it?
Watkins also laughs at the idea that he's getting rich off people buying 8K coffee. That sounds right to me; I myself have never paid money for any access to Q or related content, nor have others I've spoken wih.
We've had fake Q posts before (Q exposed the tripcode and let embedded black hats pounce on it) and those posts were removed and their lack of authenticity is no longer debated.
I believe Q/Trump a) don't allow people to steal their comms to do whatever they want with and b) are creative enough to signal to let us know if they left the board, others are controlling the board, drops are fake etc. I don't believe they just let their comms drift away, unsecured, for whomever wants to use them to lead the Q movement away.
haffast:
The Laughing Man(babyfist) and Jim Watkins on the Ron Watkin’s campaign trail from a hotel room in Vegas:
Boom! February 17 2022 Goes the Dynamite
8.5k views ○ was Live **Feb 17, 2022** at 06:04 pm
https://tora3.com/video/44a66919c3650c1f0f728b0d0c509738PS: The Laughing Man (one of his many nicks) is more commonly known as “Babyfist” aka Matthew Chapman, who is closely associated with Cicada_3301. Remember, Defango was once part of that group (Defango, microchip, James Brower, with Jack Posobiec waving their faked “chat logs” around “proving” (nope) Q fake in the early days. ‘member?).
https://i.imgflip.com/70zzvz.jpgPSS: “Future proves past.
News unlocks.” - Q
Bookmark this post. ;)ransomnote: I don't want to click the tora3 link as it's unfamiliar to me, but I've read about Babyfist before. There are lots of versions of microchip out there - it doesn't change the fact that no one steals Q/Q+'s lunch money and gets away with it.
The content has changed in delivery to match the audience. Anons from 8ch had unique abilities and enjoyed the challenges - the present Q movement includes a very different audience who doesn't have time for, or enjoy, the dot challenges. In fact, many members of the Q movement are having enough challenges in their lives at this point. There actually was more to the recent drops than first 'assumed' (e.g.).
Really the challenges in drops were needed mental stimulation for uniquely gifted individuals to bake the bread for those of us who deliver the bread to drive it around town. Early on, how many of them would knowingly sign up for 5 years of boring standard curriculum which would have you sit down at your computer and read text books and take quizzes?
Back then, Q didn't have as much control of electronic resources, and the content itself was classified so that it could not be revealed but could legally be relayed by getting anons onto a topic and telling them to look for themselves.
The recent drop about the Ukraine seemed like a nothing burger but it pointed to the cryptocurrency-fuels-the-Dem-party. What kind of 'dots' should we have dug for? That information was live or available to the public but blacked out by MSM until it wasn't - so no encryption and convoluted dots were needed to say, "LOOK! CRYPTO IS DEM PARTY LIFELINE!"
haffast: Oh, and buy some 8Kun coffee,honey,t-shirts and $ign up for Proto with your credit card for the smoothest, “anonymous” posting experience on 8Kun. /s ;)
ransomnote: Yeah, I don't buy it....literally. I mean I never spent a dime. I don't believe that selling online merch on 8k required fake Q drops or earned big bucks. (I hear the coffee is good - never tried it myself). There has always been accusations of this kind about Q, that online merch is the path to riches. It's the same thing with physicians who speak against Covid - people say they do it for money. We watch those doctors get smeared, fired and stripped of their medical credentials while people tell us they do it to get rich.
With 4ch, 8ch they were saying the same thing. Look what happened to 8ch - closed down with false accusations. Biden and MSM narratives about 'QAnon' pose those who follow Q as crazy, evil and violent - that does NOT look good for 'brand image'. Buy some coffee - it's the breakfast of violent manifesto writing traitors!We've had bad news and tough times and the latest 'Q IS FAKE' claims have returned. I don't buy them either.
Nobody steals Trumps lunch money and gets away with it. He didn't just stop caring and drift away, forgetting there's a board. Q isn't overmatched by opportunists looking to sell coffee and t-shirts.
The conversation that never happened:
Q: Bad news Mr. President. Some Anons stole our Q board!Trump: NO! How did that happen?
Q: We don't know. We think Edgar left the trip code written on the back of an envelope on a table in Starbucks, but we're not sure.
Trump: Well, get it back then!
Q: We don't know how.
Trump: Did you ask for it back?
Q: No...we...ah...well, Sir, what if he says 'No'?
Trump: Ah. Yes. Of course. I wasn't thinking. Who's 'he'?
Q: It's Watkins. Jim Watkins.
Trump: NOOOOoooo! Not him! Anybody but Jim Watkins!
Oh why did it have to be him?! Now we'll never be able to communicate to anyone, ever, that we lost the board, that fake Q is being posted. I mean, you know I can't relay comms, nor can anyone else, so that means that board will be alive for years, misleading MAGA right in the middle of who knows how many crisis! It's like the board has a life of it's own now! It's alive! IT'S ALIVE!!!!
No. Just, no.
Trump had re Truthed a post with a quote from one of the new Q drops. The same day and following he re truths multiple posts with his pic and Q+. That should settle it.
All credit Belongs to the Anons of The Board and Q
II. WHERE AND WHEN DID Q START TO POST?
The first crumb Q posted was on 4chan, an image board Internet forum launched in 2003. Q first posted in the thread named “Mueller Investigation” on the board named /pol/ on October 28th, 2017, and on other threads until, on October 31st, 2017, Q then posted in the thread named “Bread Crumbs - Q Clearance Patriot”. On November 1st, 2017, the thread “Calm Before the Storm” (CBTS), named after President Trump’s perplexing phrase uttered on October 5th, 2017, was created. Q posted on multiple iterations of CBTS (536 threads) until stating that 4chan had been infiltrated and security compromised, necessitating a move to 8chan in order to maintain readers’ assurance of Q’s authenticity.
8chan, a non-affiliated image board similar to 4chan, was launched in 2013 as a free-speech alternative to the increasing censorship at 4chan. A board was created with the same name as the thread Q posted in on 4chan, /cbts/, on November 19th, 2017. Q posted on /cbts/ until January 6th, 2018 (308 total general threads), stating that that board had also been compromised. Q had problems using the tripcode, a pseudo-registration that verifies a poster’s identity, notably on December 14th and 21st, 2017, among other instances. This inability to use the tripcode forced anons to make a new board: /thestorm/. Q first posted on /thestorm/ on January 5th, 2018. Q and anons stopped using /thestorm/ after 41 general threads due to internal disputes and self-promotion, forcing a migration to yet another new board.
Then, on Monday, January 8th, 2018, the board still in use today was created, named /qresearch/, which will henceforth be referred to as “The Board”. Q has been able to post freely on The Board since that date, and continues to post crumbs up to the time this was written. Also on January 8th, 2018, Q made a private board for Q alone to post in, named /greatawakening/.
On March 28th, 2018, Q stopped using /greatawakening/, stating that it was under attack. Finally, after a delay, Q made /patriotsfight/ on May 4th, 2018, the private board that Q uses today. On all these boards, Q has posted crumbs that anons can discuss on /qresearch/ with Q, although those who are new to The Board are encouraged to first observe how anons operate and research before contributing. However, it should be noted that there are no communications outside these boards or with anyone privately and, as Q has stated, anyone claiming otherwise, “should be considered fake news and disregarded immediately”!
End of excerpt from an early history of Q. /patriotsfight/ was abandoned and Q's current board /projectdcomms/ has been compromised.
Poor Q Team, having to rely on the platform to provide for secure posting and getting bumped from 4chan to 8chan to 8kun and having to authenticate themselves to anons each time there was a problem or compromised password, tripcode, platform or disruption before anons would believe it's Q. Except for now. New Q don't need no stinkin' tripcodes and to hell with those anons who've witnessed so much and have required authentication from outside of kun since the beginning. Perfectly fine for the inexperienced and ignorant filled with hopium to blindly follow their itchy ears and conformation bias as long as it sounds good, or, those with an agenda.
Here we have Babyfist's imageboard on 8Kun where his Benevolent peeps appologize for compromising Q's PRIVATE board and returning Q's lunch money. They did it out of love.
▶B !!qMFQqVT8Uw 06/02/21 (Wed) 22:30:09ab5bb8 (1) No.7559
We are not Q. We do know Q, notice he has never denied us. Look back and see.
Do not believe verify..
Real Q:
We know you are still Watching and Waiting as many of Us are. Thank you, you will never be forgotten for your sacrifice. You did what others were unable to achieve.
Laughing Man (babyfist):
We are sorry, if you feel betrayed We understand. But you knew the path would be rough. Just not how rough. Don't ever give up.
We are glad you were clear and honest with anons.
You don't have to forgive us but soon all will understand.
Jim and 8kun staff:
Sorry please forgive the intrusion. This is not Laughing_Man's fault. Please don't hold this against him, it is Us. We could of done this differently but decided this would be easier to clean up for you. The other way would of caused way more issues for the Q and Truth Community.
Anons:
We love you anons, We are sorry for the confusion we caused.
Time will tell. Just Watch.
Never stop fighting, Freedom has never been given it is always taken. Patriots Fight!
Thank you.
Q is now an Idea. It is no longer a person/team, ideas never die. Q is now forever.
Many still use the backchannel use discernment.
Trust yourself, verify verify verify!
Together WE Win!
WRWY! Then, Now, Forever!
Sgt B
Anonymous 06/27/22 (Mon) 15:14:31967f49 No.16536375
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Laughing_MAN aka Babyfist was a Global Volunteer and BO of /ABCU/. He used his GV account to post on Qs bread after larping on Q research for a year straight. He was immediately caught because, just like last night, these people are fXXXing stupid, and he did it without even using a VPN. So, because we all have what are called IP hashes (scrambled version of your IP posted with every post you make) it was easy to prove Babyfist posted on Qs board and then tried to lie about it. He's so stupid though, 28 seconds after faking a post on Qs board, he came to this board and posted under the same IP address. Jim then went on a press tour and told everyone it came from Babyfists GV account, only to 6 months later have video come out of Jim hanging out in a hotel with Babyfist.
In the last week, it was exposed that not only is Jim connect to Babyfist, but also Austin Steinbart, aka Doge, and a bunch of other Cicada 3301 grifters. They all post on /deepdigs/ together, where Doge is the only baker and the board owner. Needing something to take the heat off of themselves, they hatched the plan to fake Q posts. Cracking the trip code would be difficult. So with Jim's assistance, they created a password and then rotated the SALT so that the created password would output a trip code identical to Qs last Trip code. This can be verified easily and already has been. Anyone that is a BO/BV that posts without a VPN can see that their IP hash has changed, any anon with a trip code that existed before the SALT rotation will see that even though their password has NOT changed, their tripcode has as is demonstrated in picrel. They planned it out so that the fake Q posts would happen while Jim was on stage so he could have plausible deniability, but because THESE PEOPLE ARE STUPID, he didn't expect anons to notice the SALT rotation so quickly.
Anons knew last night that something was way off with these Q posts. 1. There was no content, just recycled phrases from old Q posts, as Babyfist and the fake Q were caught doing last year (picrel). 2. Q ALWAYS re-verified his trip code after long absences because SALT gets rotated, and trip codes can be brute forced. (picrel) 3. In the past, whenever Q would start posting, the board would experience MASSIVE lag when they connect and disconnect from the site. It was a noticeable enough lag to the point anons were able to start calling out when Q was about to post. This did not happen last night.
Being that Anons realized quickly something was wrong, some anons started calling into doubt that these were real Q posts. No verification, No delta with PDJT, no posts from Scavino, Nunes or anyone else to confirm. So anons started talking about it being fake. Immediately the well known shills on this board that Jim has aligned himself with started attacking anons. This should ALWAYS be a big RED FLAG. If shills are attacking someone, they are doing it for a reason. Everyone was waiting for a confirmation, but the shills were shoving the fake Q posts into the dough and telling everyone that disagreed to shut up. Until Dan scavino posted (picrel). A literal BABY FIST. In fact, if you go to GOOGLE, type in BABY FIST and search images, this will be one of the first pictures you will find. Dan Scavino was letting us know who was posting the fake Q posts, Babyfist, the same person that comp'd Qs board previously, lied about it and Jim Watkins assisted in doing it.
It was at this point anons started to notice that their own personal trip codes & IP hashes have changed. It was at this point also that BV Dart started to delete posts calling out that the SALT had been rotated. (picrel) in an attempt to cover up the fact that BO Flint was colluding with Jim Watkins, Babyfist & Austin Steinbart to dupe Qs trip code in an attempt to drive traffic back to this board. If there are no anons, Jim's grift is over, along with the money they make from aggregators. Whenever bullshit happens you have to ask Who Benefits? And the person that benefits the MOST from a Q return is JIM WATKINS. T-shirt, coffee, honey sales skyrocket, advertisers pay for banners, etc.. Jim Watkins has been doing everything he can to destroy what this place was and turn it into REDDIT 2.0 because he thinks he can get rich, but nothing he had done up to this point reached the level of absolute comp'd fXXXXtry last night did. Now, knowing that the game was up, and Dan Scavino had completely BTFO of their gay op to take over the Q trip code, they switched from attacking anons to claiming "Dan posted a fist bump to celebrate R v W" except this is how dan has always operated. If he needs to comm with anons he does it in a simple way for us to figure out quickly. I.E -"Dan, who is posting as Q?" - Dan "Posts a BabyFist." Knowing that he (babyfist) is an idiot and had been exposed Babyfist rushed to TS to try to cover himself and responded to Dan with Picrel 2 an hour after Dan posted. But Dan did not like the post or retruth it, as Dan would have if Babyfists excuse held water. It doesn't and thusly Doge, Flint, Jim Watkins & Babyfist were all exposed last night again for the grifting XXXXXXXking pieces of XXXt they are. Hope that clears it all up! You may all return to being newfaXXXt retards that oldfXXs hate for discrediting what real Anons accomplished here.
Also, For almost 2 years Torposting has not worked. It was both turned off at the board level on Q research by Fastjack, and disabled Site-Wide by Jim Watkins. Which means not only was it re-enabled by Jim, but also by FLINT. Meaning not only did Jim collude with Babyfist to adjust the SALT to make the password match Qs Tripcode, he also colluded with FLINT to have Torposting turned back on, on QR less than 24 hours before last night's fake Q posts were made. What that means is that EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of /QR/ is comp'd. From Jim who made all of this happen, to Flint who colluded to fool anons, to BV DART on clean-up deleting posts that were calling out the XXXXery. Jim, Babyfist, Flint, Dart & Austin have utterly destroyed what Q research once stood for: Finding truth.
One last thing - With the SALT being rotated, Q's tripcode would have changed even if the passcode to get the tripcode did not. Q's is the only TRIPCODE that DID NOT CHANGE. Meaning that they gamed the SALT system to get the result they wanted. They created a passcode, and adjusted the SALT for it to output what they wanted, cracking the TRIP could take years. Adjusting the SALT can be done by the SITE ADMIN whenever they choose.This 100% shows Jim Wakins was involved in this attempt to steal Q's TRIP, Babyfist could not have done this without the ADMIN ACCOUNT. So, either Jim Watkins is no longer in control of the ADMIN ACCOUNT, or Jim Watkins did this HIMSELF.
Update: On 06/25/2022, Jim Watkins came to the board, told everyone he was incapable of changing the SALT because he was in SoCal and it had to be Q. Less than an hour later Jim Watkins reverted the SALT to it's original form meaning that tripcodes reverted to the their original output before the ignorrance of last night happened. Not only did Jim have the ability to change the SALT from Socal, which he did, he lied to everyone in claiming he could not & did not.
Update 2: In 2019, Fredrick Brenan, original owner/creator of 8ch, laid out on Twitter that 8ch code had an option for what is known as "custom_tripcode". Hotwheels stated "Jim and @CodeMonkeyZ are in a unique position to take over Q. They don't need Q. And I can prove this with the open source OpenIB code underlying 8chan." He then went on to lay out exactly how 8kun, which copied its code from 8ch after Jim Watkins stole the website from Hotwheels, the following:
"mG7VJxZNCI, for the uninitiated, is QAnon's tripcode. But there's no third party way to verify; 8chan's server was the final source of truth. 8chan's server didn't sign Q's posts, and Q's password, if Ron doesn't know it already, can be overwritten; this feature already exists!"
'The relevant discusion can be found here
https://twitter.com/fr_brennan/status/1180089499491061760
Robert Amour demo'd how the Custom Tripcode setting works in a video here
https://twitter.com/kunstderfuge1/status/1541030885838839808
This is why "New Q" is posting from TOR. TOR does not relay an IP address. They learned from their mistake when they were caught with the "B" post when they initially tricked to take over the following Q had built. Q set up a specific IP address to post from that CodeMonkey had the ability to verify. As long the fake Q poster is posting from TOR Jim can claim that he doesn't have the ability to verify the IP address.
In conclusion, the SALT rotation as earlier speculated, was not for the purpose of them "gaming" the TRIPCODE. The SALT rotation was meant to lock the real Q out of the actual TRIPCODE and remove the ability for them to step in and let everyone know that Watkins & crew were lying. Not only did Jim try to takeover the TRIP code in the same way he took /projectdcomms/, /qresearch/ and 8ch itself for that matter, he tried to directly interfere with actual Q's ability to stop it. If I were Jim Watkins I would be highly concerned about what happens when the storm comes.
Anons used to be all about using logic.
Necessary minor edits made, do your own diligence.
Excellent Q post, MoD! Yes, I read the whole thing. Yes, I agree with you.
(the blak pills come in a bottle with a skull and crossbones on it, right?)