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Welcome to Pennsylvania, America's Capital of Stupid
American Thinker ^ | 10 Nov, 2022 | Stephan Helgesen

Posted on 11/10/2022 4:07:07 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

Sounds like some people still believe we have free and fair elections in this country…


61 posted on 11/10/2022 6:29:09 AM PST by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: Travis McGee

Things change, always have and will continue.

Just look at the differing methods, rules of voting over the
history of this USA. Things evolve over time and I’m not sure
how you can change that.

Go back to 1492 when Columbus sailed and go close to this land.
Native Americans were rounded up and put on reservations. Africans
were brought in to cook/clean/wash the clothes/plant/harvest/manual
labor/etc and white male ruled.

Then things began to change over time. Women got more freedom,
slavery was abolished, people from around the world began moving
in with their customs/methods thus changes have occurred over time
and will continue, imo.

Outer space will be interesting as things develop along than frontier.
I want be around to see it but it would be very interesting imo.


62 posted on 11/10/2022 6:33:04 AM PST by deport
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To: MtnClimber

Where my stupid co-workers stayed home because they wouldn’t vote for Dr. Oz.


63 posted on 11/10/2022 6:37:30 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Graphic above shows nothing more than the reality that in PA there is a 600,000 D vote registration advantage.

That’s the playing field in PA, period... Has been for generations.

Trying to claim its evidence prima facia of bulk fraud is just nonsense.

You want to win in PA you have to absolute crush it with excitement and support among the GOP base... you need to win the independents and you better be able to peel alway some of the conservative/moderate democrats as well.

PA is winnable as an R, but run a crap candidate get a crap result... OZ was utterly and completely off brand... he stood no shot.. there was ZERO excitement even among the GOP base for this man, let alone anywhere else, the conversations about this election were basically the entire race is a crap show but at least Oz isn’t Fetterman... that’s not going to get you there.

Oz got the gift of gifts with Fetterman’s stroke, without that, and Fetterman able to properly campaign, OZ easily goes down 6-8 points.

This cycles candidates weren’t great but OZ was absolute the worst choice, by far.. This race was over before it began.. and sadly the $100,000,000 + spent on this race almost certainly cost wins in other places where if the money had been spent could have made a difference.

The national punditry who pushed this turd should absolutely be ashamed of themselves, and should be run out of town on a rail... but instead of being ashamed of themselves for their failures, they are going to try to deflect... and the people who let themselves be fooled by the con they sold them should be wiser next time and be open to input that doesn’t fit their preferred and desired narrative.


64 posted on 11/10/2022 6:58:01 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
I get you are angry. Electability translates to votes and some people refused to vote for Oz, knowing full well that a brain impaired person would become their senator..
65 posted on 11/10/2022 7:03:30 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: MtnClimber

Everyone can piss off with the Florida Man thing; now there is Penn Stupid. Oh, and your welcome in advance for Ron....


66 posted on 11/10/2022 7:04:16 AM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: Travis McGee

Sorry, but this graphic is nonsense.

D’s have a 600000 registration advantage.

I am not a fan in any way of no excuse mail in voting, however, trying to claim that this is “proof” of fraud is just nonsense.

D’s got about 200,000 more voters this election than Republicans.... in a state that they have a 600,000 registration vote advantage.

Was their fraud, there is always fraud.. but fraud didn’t cost Oz the election... being an absolutely lousy candidate is what cost Oz this election.

The only reason OZ didn’t lose by 6-8 points was because Fetterman had a stroke.

Need to stop listening to moron pundits out in DC and NYC selling you $#(T and telling you its Shinola.

This race was over before it began because Oz was the most off brand crap of a candidate I’ve ever seen... he had ZERO shot at a statewide win, completely off brand.

Had he run for some purple congressional district out east he’d probably have had a good shot at winning, but statewide? Not a chance in hell.


67 posted on 11/10/2022 7:05:36 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“Sorry, but this graphic is nonsense.”

Bulls#it.

“D’s have a 600000 registration advantage.”

Who cares? If the GOP uses the same Rat playbook to stuff in 900K bogus harvested mass mail-in ballots, the GOP wins.

You cannot beat a back-alley knife fighter by Marquis de Queensbury rules. You have to out knife fight him.


68 posted on 11/10/2022 7:10:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: HamiltonJay

Added point: Republicans, by registration, just barely edge out the Dems in Florida.

DeSantis won by 20 points. That’s a LOT of Dems voting for DeSantis and Rubio. Millions.

By your simplistic calculation, elections should mirror registration numbers.

So how to explain Florida?

FLORIDA BANNED MASS MAIL-IN BALLOTS AND VOTE HARVESTING.


69 posted on 11/10/2022 7:14:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Look,

Stop being foolish. Oz Lost, and it was a miracle he lost by only 3%... Fetterman’s stroke is the only reason he didn’t lose by 6-8%.

Dems have a 600,000 registration advantage, the fact Fetterman got 200,000 + more votes than a really crappy and off brand GOP candidate shouldn’t surprise anyone.. in fact, if anything the surprising thing about those vote totals is that Fetterman ONLY got 200,000 more votes.

No Fraud didn’t cost OZ the election, you need to get your head out of your butt and stop listening to flappy lipped morons out of DC and NYC who sold you a complete false bill of goods and told you oh just what a great candidate the pile of crap Oz was was.

Oz was UTTERLy and COMPLETELY OFF BRAND... Hey we have a state full of working class blue collar voters, how can we win them? Oh I know, lets get a carpet bagging member of the media/entertainment complex, who’s advocated gun control, who’s advocated for Trans Kids, is a card carrying member of the WEF, who’s had to pay out over 5,000,000 for pushing fake diet pills on his show, Who has absolutely no political base in the state to build from... etc etc etc.. .IDIOTIC.

Oz didn’t lose because of fraud, he lost because he was a LOUSY LOUSY LOUSY candidate, period.

You got fed a web of lies by morons, if you thought Oz had any shot.. this outcome was obvious from the start, and people like myself who have actually lived in PA for more than 3 decades pointed it out, and I was repeatedly attacked and called names and threatened and all sorts of other things because rather than parrot the lies these morons were telling folks that they wanted to hear, I told folks what they needed to hear.

And I am telling you right now, something you need to hear...

Oz did not lose because of fraud, he lost because he as an absolutely lousy and off brand candidate to have any prayer at a statewide in in PA... PERIOD.

Need to stop buying into lies that match what you want to believe over folks who are telling you a truth that doesn’t match what you want to believe.

Was their fraud? every election has fraud... but did fraud cost Oz this race? Nope, he was just the most off brand candidate I’ve ever seen run for statewide office in PA... It was an absolute miracle and gift to him that Fetterman had a stroke, otherwise Oz would have lost by 6-8 points easily.


70 posted on 11/10/2022 7:26:28 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: MtnClimber

Boy isn’t that the truth.....PA, capitol of BIG TIME STUPID.


71 posted on 11/10/2022 7:29:34 AM PST by kagnew
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To: Travis McGee

Whatever you are smoking, please stop.

You really are sitting there trying to compare OZ with Desantis? You are trying to compare PA politcal dynamic with Floridas? There is no comparison between these two states, you trying to pretend there is, just shows self delusion.

I am not a fan of no excuse mail in voting, not at all, but you are just living in a world of self delusion trying to compare OZ, a carpet bagging neophite who is utterly and completely off brand for the state he ran in, and a demonstrable fraud, didn’t have the kind of night that the popular sitting governor of another state had????

Oz didn’t have this election stolen, Oz lost because Oz was a lousy candidate, period.

Florida is explained easily... You have a sitting popular governor with a proven track record running for re-election against a HORRIBLE and unpopular opponent who never had a prayer... PA you have an off brand carpet bagger neophite and fraud.

Trying to claim the dynamic of these 2 races are anything alike is beyond foolish.

Unbelievable you are truly trying to compare the Desantis/Crist race to Oz/Fetterman...

Trying to compare a very popular sitting governor running for re-election against an ex governor turncoat unpopular opponent to the PA Senate race? There is nothing remotely comparable about these races.

In your mind you are trying to argue the only reason one of the most popular governors in the country won re-election against a very unpopular opponent by a larger margin than his party affiliation is because they ended no excuse mail in voting????

Do you even listen to yourself?


72 posted on 11/10/2022 7:39:49 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Just mythoughts

I am not angry at anyone who voted or refused to vote for anyone, that is their absolute right.

I am angry at the idiots who pushed this absolute turd, and lied and fed folks nonsense that this absolute turd of a candidate was “electable”.

I am angry that what was absolute multitude of unforced errors that went into this entire situation.

I am angry that we just went through an election cycle, where literally, no one offered a real argument “for” their candidate, only that “the other guy would be worse”.. and that is now the defacto model of US elections.

I am angry that we have a “conservative” party that at best pays lip service to conservatives for their votes, but doesn’t remotely want or respect conservatives, particularly in the state of PA.

This election was without question the biggest joke of my lifetime.... Neither of these folks should not be on the ballot for dog catcher, let alone candidates for the US Senate.

This election was an absolute case study in exactly how ridiculous the US political system is today.

Literally $1 for every $3500 (approx) of the entire PA State GDP was spent to try to buy this seat for these nitwits, and the overwhelming majority of that money came from outside PA.. and yet, folks sit around and think whichever one who won was going to remotely give a rats hair butt about PA or the people of the state?? It’s ludicrous on its face.

I am angry, but it’s not at any individual voter for their votes or lack their of, they have very right to vote however they choose, for whatever reason they choose.. Whether I agree with them or not.


73 posted on 11/10/2022 8:11:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
What makes you think any Republican candidate could win against the DIM election machine? The GOPe are out doing a victory dance for the end of Trump.. I cannot imagine Oz being worse than recent Republican Senators.. Toomey turned out to be a GOPe hack.. Snarling Arlen was only worried about Scottish law.. At least Oz has trained medical background.
74 posted on 11/10/2022 9:12:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Just mythoughts

Oz makes Toomey look like a Conservative Icon.

Oz is pro gun control
Oz has advocated for trans kids
Oz has paid out over 5 Million dollars for selling fat fat burning pills
Oz is a card carrying member of the WEF
OZ is not a conservative, he’s a fraudster and a huckster...

We threw Toomey out, but then the option to replace him is someone even less conservative? Gee, can’t imagine why that didn’t sell.

OZ was a joke and utterly off brand, period.. he’s a globalist /Umniparty/RINO who tried to play a conservative to get elected, and low and behold, it didn’t work.


75 posted on 11/10/2022 12:03:00 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Just mythoughts
Ask the dead guy who was elected.

76 posted on 11/11/2022 8:19:35 AM PST by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: HamiltonJay
The ‘conservative’ Toomey is Mitch's ‘chinafirst’ itch.

Wonder, is Toomey more wealthy today than the first time he ran for the Senate? I live in MO, and I can remember chatting at a soccer field with a dad from PA.. I asked him what were Toomey’s chances of winning that first election. He just locked his jaw and shrugged.. You cannot ‘buy’ loyalty or trust.

I have reached the point mentally, this nation in now in the hands of the Heavenly Father.. Maybe He sees fit to let the people have the brain impaired or the crafty sanctimonious foxes have their way with US!

When your conservative icons become party to stealing the peoples ‘Constitutional’ protected VOTE, they are worse than the lying left.

77 posted on 11/11/2022 8:47:42 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Just mythoughts

You seem to be confused... You seem to think I held up Toomey as a “great” conservative... I simply pointed out he’s more conservative that OZ, which he is.

So we kick out Toomey and the option to replace him we are given is an even less conservative person... no one should be surprised at OZ’s loss, no one.


78 posted on 11/11/2022 9:00:00 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
I thought Toomey retired.. how is that translated to being kicked out?
79 posted on 11/11/2022 9:07:23 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Just mythoughts

He “retired” because he knew he would lose his primary.. his vote to convict Trump ended him.


80 posted on 11/11/2022 9:10:33 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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