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No ‘Pandemic Amnesty,’ We Want Accountability
the Defender Children's Health Defense News & Views ^ | 11/02/22 | Madhava Setty, M.D.

Posted on 11/02/2022 2:26:21 PM PDT by Qiviut

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To: grey_whiskers

Have to drop an ‘e’ but,

mostly ire


41 posted on 11/02/2022 7:09:46 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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To: BrandtMichaels
mostly ire

Not bad!

42 posted on 11/02/2022 8:01:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Qiviut

No amnesty ever for these people. This was a crime of unsurpassed magnitude visited on the American people as well as people all around the world. The politicians, bureaucrats of the FDA, DHS, CDC, NIH, FBI, and more, Pharmaceutical company personnel, big tech censors, media, CEO’s, HR department personnel, teacher’s union personnel, all must be tried for their crime against all of humanity. They are personally and professionally responsible for millions of deaths around the world.

They must resign their positions never to work where they have any influence or authority of the public again. The biggest and most powerful of the offenders must have the death penalty on the table. Tribunals should be held and punishment meted out swiftly. Then, and only then, can we talk forgiveness.


43 posted on 11/02/2022 8:15:18 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Qiviut; ransomnote; bitt; Jane Long; metmom

https://usawatchdog.com/cv19-vax-destroys-hearts-brains-of-billions-of-people-dr-sucharit-bhakdi/


44 posted on 11/02/2022 8:49:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

New Study: Pretty Much Everyone Is Getting Heart Damage From The COVID Vaccines!

https://rumble.com/v1p4u1v-new-study-pretty-much-everyone-is-getting-heart-damage-from-the-covid-vacci.html


45 posted on 11/02/2022 8:58:50 PM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control.)
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To: grey_whiskers

…. This means the gene that the perpetrators injected into billions of people reach the vessels of the brain and the heart. They are killing people. They are killing people in the most terrible, terrifying and tormenting way.”


Thank you for posting the link to the interview with Dr Bhakdi.

One of the first to warn about these terrible $hots.

Just awful what they are seeing. As he says, a “criminal hoax”.


46 posted on 11/02/2022 9:01:10 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Qiviut
An essay by Emily Oster, Ph.D., published this week in The Atlantic suggesting “We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID”

They were never “in the dark” about Covid.

What they did was deliberate and malfeasance.

They can “forgive” each other. The rest of us want justice.

47 posted on 11/02/2022 10:39:28 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Qiviut; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Jan_Sobieski; bagster; Roman_War_Criminal; ...

Excellent articles.

Thanks for posting.

Interesting questions arise though.

Does forgiveness preclude justice? Just because we forgive, does that mean there should be no consequences for their actions, or that we do not hold them accountable?

Or are we just supposed to move on like they’d want and pretend like none of this ever happened? That they can just get on with life with a callous disregard for what they inflicted on everyone else.

It always aggravates me when the person doing the wrong demands forgiveness and then makes the person wronged the bad guy for not being “forgiving”. All they are looking for is a clear conscience and escape from the consequences of their actions. But to demand it? That’s not what forgiveness is. Forgiveness is freely given by the wronged party, not an obligation to be fulfilled to the perp by the victim that the perp can demand of them. What they are then demanding is injustice, an escape from the consequences or penalty of their wrong doing. That’s not forgiveness.

I think that this may be the big issue with people forgiving others. The thought that by forgiving them means there are no consequences, no accountability, no resolution, no nothing except ignoring what happened like it didn’t. And does demanding justice mean that forgiveness didn’t happen?

Thoughts? Because those are some of the things I wrestle with in forgiving others.


48 posted on 11/02/2022 11:07:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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Well done.


49 posted on 11/02/2022 11:10:02 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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OK, extreme language warnings on this one - you want rage? Razorfist, the most suspended guy on YooToob, says exactly what I'm feeling. Do not click if you're easily offended.

Do Not Forget, Do Not Forgive

50 posted on 11/02/2022 11:29:15 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: metmom

The global collection of welfare states have a perverse incentive to ensure their constituents do not live to retirement / pensioner age. This coordinated effort will not be the last…


51 posted on 11/03/2022 2:44:14 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: metmom
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled No ‘Pandemic Amnesty,’ We Want Accountability, metmom wrote:

Excellent articles.

Thanks for posting.

Interesting questions arise though.

Does forgiveness preclude justice? Just because we forgive, does that mean there should be no consequences for their actions, or that we do not hold them accountable?

Or are we just supposed to move on like they’d want and pretend like none of this ever happened? That they can just get on with life with a callous disregard for what they inflicted on everyone else.

It always aggravates me when the person doing the wrong demands forgiveness and then makes the person wronged the bad guy for not being “forgiving”. All they are looking for is a clear conscience and escape from the consequences of their actions. But to demand it? That’s not what forgiveness is. Forgiveness is freely given by the wronged party, not an obligation to be fulfilled to the perp by the victim that the perp can demand of them. What they are then demanding is injustice, an escape from the consequences or penalty of their wrong doing. That’s not forgiveness.

I think that this may be the big issue with people forgiving others. The thought that by forgiving them means there are no consequences, no accountability, no resolution, no nothing except ignoring what happened like it didn’t. And does demanding justice mean that forgiveness didn’t happen?

Thoughts? Because those are some of the things I wrestle with in forgiving others.

I genuinely tried to be concise in my reply, but my answer exploded into a long ramble that I ended up placing in an old Festival. Enter at your own risk or save yourself and scroll on by without stopping, no questions asked!  :D

I will say here though, God loves justice! :D

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4089945/posts?page=1947#1947

 


52 posted on 11/03/2022 3:19:47 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Billthedrill

Not as bad (language) as I anticipated. Boy, can he talk fast! I’m of his opinion at a minimum.


53 posted on 11/03/2022 3:53:37 AM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control.)
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To: metmom

"Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."


54 posted on 11/03/2022 4:04:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Thoughts??



55 posted on 11/03/2022 4:06:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Forgiveness is freely given by the wronged party, not an obligation to be fulfilled to the perp by the victim that the perp can demand of them.

Well...


Here is the raw text:

Matthew 6:14-15 says, "For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins" (NIV).


How we go about actually doing it is not spelled out.

56 posted on 11/03/2022 4:10:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

I hear no remorse, just excuses for why people who have committed premeditated murder, who have ruined the health & lives of fellow human beings, who have destroyed a good part of our country’s economy, who have breached the sanctity of bodily autonomy, denied people their rights and freedoms, after “never again” did & still are “doing it again” by experimenting on people without fully informed consent & major portion of the medical community has and still are violating their Hippocratic oath to “do no harm”.

Yet no remorse and I have yet to hear or get a single apology, much less anything close to ‘sincere’. At this point, forgiveness is off the table and I am generally a very forgiving person. In fact, my heart was significantly ‘hardened’ by Oster’s article. Until there is accountability at a minimum, not to mention ‘justice’, I feel no obligation to grant ‘forgiveness’, especially to people who want to say ‘move along, there’s nothing to see’ in the smoking wreckage of people’s lives over the last two years. Would they do it again? You betcha’ they would.

I refuse to let them further ruin my life by ‘hating’ & turning my own soul into charred & blackened ashes, but there is righteous anger & that I do confess to having. No, ‘forgiveness’ is a LONG way down the road & will not be forthcoming because it’s being demanded by the guilty parties.


57 posted on 11/03/2022 4:14:37 AM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control.)
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To: Elsie
"Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."

Despite everything else it says, the Good Book never takes vengeance off the table; sobering.

58 posted on 11/03/2022 5:01:23 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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A group of people where I work who were/are very pro-vax and indeed mandatory vax, are not apologizing for anything. To them, the un-vaxxed are the reason that COVID-19 is still a problem.


59 posted on 11/03/2022 5:06:53 AM PDT by Fury
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It’s not the unvaxed who are the problem, it’s vaxing with a leaky “vax” during a pandemic that causes variants & thus perpetuates COVID. They’re ignorant, many willfully so at this point.

If they won’t ‘make peace’ with you, they better make peace with their Maker. Over 90$ of those dying of COVID in hospitals are triple vaxed. Just heard that stat yesterday.

If you are not jabbed, just know that you are on “the invisible ark” ....


60 posted on 11/03/2022 5:19:37 AM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control.)
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