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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“the odds of everything accidently happening just right could be 1 of 10^200.”

Yup—this is the issue of “telos”.

While many here think that “intelligent design” means God, there are many many other possible alternatives that would still qualify as “telos”.

One of the (many) flaws of science is that (for the most part) it refuses to deal with any of those possible alternatives.


70 posted on 10/27/2022 5:59:14 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg; Right_Wing_Madman
While many here think that “intelligent design” means God, there are many many other possible alternatives that would still qualify as “telos”. One of the (many) flaws of science is that (for the most part) it refuses to deal with any of those possible alternatives.

The origin of the universe by an "alternative" other than intelligent design/designer means it's accidental which implies it came into existence purely through chaos. When all of science is supposedly based upon observation and repeatable experiments, chaos theory is laughable. Yet even chaos fails to explain FIRST CAUSE or where the building blocks came from.

Many evolutionists (the honest ones) admit they hold to that theory because the only alternative is a Creator and they refuse to accept it.

73 posted on 10/27/2022 6:52:31 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: cgbg; Right_Wing_Madman
While many here think that “intelligent design” means God, there are many many other possible alternatives that would still qualify as “telos”. One of the (many) flaws of science is that (for the most part) it refuses to deal with any of those possible alternatives.

The origin of the universe by an "alternative" other than intelligent design/designer means it's accidental which implies it came into existence purely through chaos. When all of science is supposedly based upon observation and repeatable experiments, chaos theory is laughable. Yet even chaos fails to explain FIRST CAUSE or where the building blocks came from.

Many evolutionists (the honest ones) admit they hold to that theory because the only alternative is a Creator and they refuse to accept it.

74 posted on 10/27/2022 6:52:31 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: cgbg; Right_Wing_Madman
While many here think that “intelligent design” means God, there are many many other possible alternatives that would still qualify as “telos”. One of the (many) flaws of science is that (for the most part) it refuses to deal with any of those possible alternatives.

The origin of the universe by an "alternative" other than intelligent design/designer means it's accidental which implies it came into existence purely through chaos. When all of science is supposedly based upon observation and repeatable experiments, chaos theory is laughable. Yet even chaos fails to explain FIRST CAUSE or where the building blocks came from.

Many evolutionists (the honest ones) admit they hold to that theory because the only alternative is a Creator and they refuse to accept it.

75 posted on 10/27/2022 6:52:31 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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