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To: dennisw

I am somewhat skeptical that Russia blew up the pipeline. Russia having an intact but turned-off pipeline gives them a lot of leverage over Germany in particular “Hey, it’s a really cold winter. We’d love to reactivate our pipeline as soon as you lift sanctions and stop arming Ukraine.”

The blown up pipeline makes a diplomatic settlement much less likely. This benefits war-mongers and Ukraine, not Russia so much.

In contrast, I am bewildered by conservatives passing around that Biden video as evidence the US blew it up. Biden says the economy is not headed for recession. Does anyone believe him? Biden says the Inflation Reduction Act is just about to kick in. Does anyone believe him? If Biden announced that tommorow is going to be very sunny how many Freepers automatically reach for their umbrellas? So why in God’s name are people posting rambling incoherent nonsense and claiming it’s a coherent military promise?

The video has a good point I think that if the US wanted to disable the pipeline permanently, they would have arranged an explosion on the Russian side and had it be very mysterious with people thinking it might have been an accident or maybe anti-Putin Russians or .... But the video’s explanation of Russia’s puported motives did not convince me they did it.

I think the Urkanians have the most to gain from a blown-up pipeline. But I’m not convinced they have the ability to do so. Other than that I don’t know and haven’t been convinced by anyones arguments so far.


40 posted on 10/20/2022 12:23:51 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: TennesseeProfessor

In Russian controlled or patrolled waters? Think again.


60 posted on 10/20/2022 3:19:39 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TennesseeProfessor

“In contrast, I am bewildered by conservatives passing around that Biden video as evidence the US blew it up.”

Me too. Such simplistic thinking in a deviousness run world. FReepers are ultra skeptics, but here they believe in Joe. “In Joe we trust.” “Cause he said so”


61 posted on 10/20/2022 3:37:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: TennesseeProfessor
Ukrainians have the ability....I'm sure they could pay someone...it's not like they have no connections with bad actors.

You're right...Germany was on the brink of making a deal with Russia for more gas via Nordstream....before "Z" blew it up.....

64 posted on 10/20/2022 4:30:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Nordstream 2 still has one line operable

It’s not certified and delivering because Germany refuses to after SMO


96 posted on 10/21/2022 9:14:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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