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1 posted on 10/19/2022 11:08:15 PM PDT by dennisw
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(Russians blew NS up and why)

Nope.
The Dementia Joe regime did it.
Biden promised to “end the Nordstream 2 pipeline” and he did it.
We have him on video promising to do it.

2 posted on 10/19/2022 11:11:16 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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LINK to above video >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-0qJXyido

Best explanation I have seen why Russian destroyed Nord Steams. That Germany also paid for. So Putin destroyed Germany’s investment too. Not that he gives a rip.


3 posted on 10/19/2022 11:11:47 PM PDT by dennisw
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Sweden claims they know who did it.
Germany claims they know who did it.

Ironic neither has come out and said/asserted Russia did it.

Btw, Russia claims they know who did it and have pretty much insinuated who it was.


4 posted on 10/19/2022 11:13:45 PM PDT by cranked
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Bullcrap of the year:) Only three power were interested in it and had capabilities: the US, UK, Poland. The US had a warship in direct proximity and flew a helicopter right where the bombing took place.


7 posted on 10/19/2022 11:20:22 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Omg

Pedojoe said it would be taken out
Newland said same
Blinken said it was a great thing to happen
You really bought into a youtube video.. wow


8 posted on 10/19/2022 11:21:04 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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worthless propaganda.

better to note something tangible worth worrying about:

VIDEO: 3m09s: 19 Oct: Fox News: Tucker Carlson: The Biden administration is demanding Amazon censor books they disagree with
Tucker says Amazon is violating the First Amendment
https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-biden-administration-demanding-amazon-censor-books-disagree-with

video wasn’t working for me on MSN, but there’s a full transcript, some excerpts below:

VIDEO: 19 Oct: MSN: Tucker Carlson: The Biden administration is demanding Amazon censor books they disagree with
Fox News
Tucker Carlson slammed Amazon for banning the sale of books by Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin and signed(sic) a light on the government’s key role in this censorship on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”...

TUCKER: Then we learned that Amazon and the Justice Department were ignoring our Bill of Rights. Amazon apparently based its decision on a Treasury Department designation concerning “disinformation.” And that designation applies not only to Dugin, but also to his family, though not to his daughter, who was murdered recently by the Ukrainian government. But we’re not allowed to say that. What did she do wrong? Well, I guess she said the wrong thing, but that’s cool because we’re fighting for freedom...

So then we reach out to the Treasury Department. Did this really happen? Yeah, it did. They essentially confirmed it: “We don’t comment on possible enforcement matters, but the Treasury Department continues to vigorously enforce Russia-related sanctions.”

Oh, really? There is no legal basis for ever censoring any book if you’re the US government. That is not allowed. That’s the main thing that’s not allowed in this country. Period.

We don’t care who wrote the book. You’re allowed to read it. You can read any book you want. You’re an American. And if you cease to be able to read any book you want, it doesn’t matter if you’re an American because you’re just a serf. Well, Amazon has refused to provide us with a list of the other books they are banning, but they clearly are banning a lot of different books.

And why can’t we know what those books are? We’re going to continue to look into this, and if there are any legal challenges to the book banning, which is one click from book burning. We hope there are legal challenges.We’ll let you know about those as well.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tucker-carlson-the-biden-administration-is-demanding-amazon-censor-books-they-disagree-with/ar-AA13ajEw


11 posted on 10/19/2022 11:21:41 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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The Russians blew up NS2! Putin did it! Putin! Putin! Putin!


12 posted on 10/19/2022 11:26:32 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Russia
Russia
Russsia !
Sure, Dennis . What sort of drugs are you on ?


13 posted on 10/19/2022 11:30:22 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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The US always claims Russia did it.

The DS is far more likely.


14 posted on 10/19/2022 11:34:27 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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A few fact that the pro-Russian crowd ignores:

For the US: On February 28, Biden put sanctions on the owners of Nord 2. The owners filed for bankruptcy on March 1. For seven months before the explosion, the owners were in bankruptcy court and just got a extensions. Both Trump and Biden got what they wanted before the Nord lines were sabotaged. What the US does not want is damage to European energy security that could compromise support for the Ukraine.

For Germany: Nord 2 never delivered any natural gas and Nord 1 had decreasing deliveries before it stopped. Germany is getting long term contracts for natural gas with Qatar and other countries. When Russia offered gas through Nord 1, Germany refused. Germany is committed to not funding Russian wars. The winter is going to be hard on Europe, they will get through it. Europe are working to meet there energy needs, they are getting what they want.

For Russia: Gazprom is liable for billions of Euros for non delivery. As far are future European energy contracts are concerned, Nord 1 and 2 are redundant. Russia is not making any money on sales, the war cost future sales, and the investment in the lines is a waste. Russia has no political leverage over Europe. Putin is not getting what he wants and the Gazprom is liable for billions of Euros.

During the Cold War, Russia spent a lot on combat swimmers, miniature and mother submarines for espionage and sabotage. When you look at what matters to all sides, Russia has more reasons to damage is pipelines for political reasons than anyone else.

16 posted on 10/19/2022 11:36:50 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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Sir, YOU BECLOWN YOURSELF.


38 posted on 10/20/2022 12:15:33 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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C'mon, man! Everybody knows Joe committed the US to take out Nord Stream and damage the Russkies.

Biden is right there on video actually promising sabotage of the pipeline.

BIDEN: "If Russia invades Ukraine there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring end to it"


39 posted on 10/20/2022 12:21:53 AM PDT by henbane
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I am somewhat skeptical that Russia blew up the pipeline. Russia having an intact but turned-off pipeline gives them a lot of leverage over Germany in particular “Hey, it’s a really cold winter. We’d love to reactivate our pipeline as soon as you lift sanctions and stop arming Ukraine.”

The blown up pipeline makes a diplomatic settlement much less likely. This benefits war-mongers and Ukraine, not Russia so much.

In contrast, I am bewildered by conservatives passing around that Biden video as evidence the US blew it up. Biden says the economy is not headed for recession. Does anyone believe him? Biden says the Inflation Reduction Act is just about to kick in. Does anyone believe him? If Biden announced that tommorow is going to be very sunny how many Freepers automatically reach for their umbrellas? So why in God’s name are people posting rambling incoherent nonsense and claiming it’s a coherent military promise?

The video has a good point I think that if the US wanted to disable the pipeline permanently, they would have arranged an explosion on the Russian side and had it be very mysterious with people thinking it might have been an accident or maybe anti-Putin Russians or .... But the video’s explanation of Russia’s puported motives did not convince me they did it.

I think the Urkanians have the most to gain from a blown-up pipeline. But I’m not convinced they have the ability to do so. Other than that I don’t know and haven’t been convinced by anyones arguments so far.


40 posted on 10/20/2022 12:23:51 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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Not a single chance Russia blew up their own source of revenue and leverage.

It was the USA/NATO for sure.


41 posted on 10/20/2022 12:28:45 AM PDT by Boomer (The biden regime is a clear and present threat to this constitutional republic.)
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To: AdmSmith; patriotfury; Monterrosa-24; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Timber Rattler; Berlin_Freeper; BeauBo
Ping. Check Cranked's post count. This thread has made someone nervous.

Also, please watch the video if you can. Puck goes over military theory from a military point of view to argue out the "whodunit"

42 posted on 10/20/2022 12:46:27 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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"....This shows that Russia is the most likely suspect, because all other actors would have made different operational choices.This shows that Russia is the most likely suspect, because all other actors would have made different operational choices...."


44 posted on 10/20/2022 12:51:26 AM PDT by ganeemead
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More Deep State Propaganda!


49 posted on 10/20/2022 1:04:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Russia did it

Same as Russia influencing the 2016 election....

I saw lots of videos and news reports proving that as well.

54 posted on 10/20/2022 2:01:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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Russian PTSD

Many of us lived with decades of the Cold War and hatred of the USSR (Russia).

Now there is a war against Russia and it has become a replacement for the Cold War.


56 posted on 10/20/2022 2:19:00 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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bkmk


59 posted on 10/20/2022 3:19:29 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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