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Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State
10/17/2022 | vanity

Posted on 10/17/2022 8:50:46 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: ransomnote

I have travelled to Ukraine several times in the past decade.

Its a depressing place, but its people in both East and West were solid, honest, intelligent. I felt it had so much promise.

Sadly, our deep-state has infected Ukraine - and they have infected US. EVERY high-level political scandal of the last 6 years has BEEN TIED IN SOME WAY TO UKRAINE, with the assistance of our corrupt deep state

Steele Dossier
The prosecution of Paul Manafort
FBI lies to FISA court
Hunter Biden in all his crackhead glory
Joe Biden bragging about firing Ukraine Prosecutor
The Vindmans / Impeachment


21 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:02 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ransomnote
In light of the Russian drone strikes in Kyiv this morning, Ukrainian air defenses were busy....
22 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:21 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ransomnote

Thanks for this excellent post. ANYTHING the leftist/globalist filth cabal gets behind I am opposed to. ANYTHING WEF/Soros/GloboHomo/IMH/UN is for I am reflexively against. Eff Ukraine. Eff Russia. Not one penny for either. Much money for combat- disabled US veterans and their families.


23 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:21 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (I)
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To: ransomnote

That is quite a post you put together.

But, Russian tanks are on streets that don’t belong to them. It’s pretty simple…they can go home and the people of the world will go back to not giving a hoot about either Russia or Ukraine.

Your entire argument is “They made me do it.” That doesn’t work for three year olds. It doesn’t work now.

And you dismiss the greed motivation of the Russians.


24 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ransomnote

NO! Support for Ukraine is support for the Ukrainian people against the invasion of a foreign power. This is a conflict between two nations, not a personal drama between their leaders. Even with the most corrupt leadership in the world, the Ukrainian people have the right to defend themselves against this Russian invasion. It is also laughable to attempt to discredit the defense of Ukraine on the basis of claimed corruption when any such corruption pales in comparison to that of Putin and his regime. Those opposed to Ukraine need to stop viewing this as their own surrogate war against the threats of the Left and the New World Order. A Russian conquest of Ukraine will do nothing in that regard. Rather, it would only advance the imperial ambitions of those in Russia who cannot accept the breakup of the Soviet Union and the greater Russian world.


25 posted on 10/17/2022 9:07:24 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No one cares whether you support the Ukraine or not. I’m sure any former Soviet Republic is corrupt, but saying something patently ridiculous like the Ukraine is so corrupt and Russia isn’t corrupt makes you look like a complete idiot. Obama was on record at trying to give Putin anything he wanted.


26 posted on 10/17/2022 9:08:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway (Found)
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To: DannyTN
NEVER GOOGLE ARTICLE 16 OF UKRAINES CONSTITUTION. WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE! https://mobile.twitter.com/REVMAXXING/status/1581441449811267584
27 posted on 10/17/2022 9:09:48 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Renfrew

The top of my list of security activities would be to stop the constant influx of foreign fighters flooding our southern and northern borders. Armies of enemies are welcomed in and bused around the country and stopping that is job #1. If the US is overthrown from within, the issue of Cuba is moot.

You boil the issues down to over simplified, “who is our friend?” The global conflict map is built on shifting sands reliant on context. In the context of the Ukraine, support for the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden and Deeps staters who overthrew that region to use as their corrupt satellite.


28 posted on 10/17/2022 9:11:14 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

lets all have perogies and be friends


29 posted on 10/17/2022 9:12:27 AM PDT by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: nickcarraway
but saying something patently ridiculous like the Ukraine is so corrupt and Russia isn’t corrupt makes you look like a complete idiot.

You'd best read more carefully, since when you add to what someone said, it makes you look "like a complete idiot."

I never mentioned Russia, which is of course corrupt.

I will await your apology.

30 posted on 10/17/2022 9:13:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: cranked

Doesn’t excuse Russia acting like they have an article in their constitution vowing to wipe out the gene pool of the Ukrainian people.

Putin has displaced 14 million people with his war. 7 million plus left Ukraine because of the terror that Russia represents.

Putin is despicable.


31 posted on 10/17/2022 9:13:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“Most Americans can’t find Russia on a map. They hate a country that did nothing to them.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqjZlIKMKzA


32 posted on 10/17/2022 9:13:56 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ransomnote

Thanks!


33 posted on 10/17/2022 9:14:53 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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To: mylife

Pierogi’s!!!

Can create world peace.


34 posted on 10/17/2022 9:16:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: nickcarraway
communism globalism and leftism

If you are supporting the Ukraine, then yes, you would be supporting the above. Not to mention Soros and Schwab, the Dynamic Duo that is busy destroying the U.S. with the help of D and R globalists.

35 posted on 10/17/2022 9:17:03 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: cranked

If only that could be true!!!!

“Pop” goes that little shit, joe Biden!


36 posted on 10/17/2022 9:17:12 AM PDT by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: ransomnote

“In the context of the Ukraine, support for the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden and Deeps staters who overthrew that region to use as their corrupt satellite.”

For generations Mexico and Central America have been our corrupt satellite.

Does that mean you would support Cuba invading and overthrowing the regimes there?


37 posted on 10/17/2022 9:19:38 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Petrosius
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State, Petrosius wrote:

NO! Support for Ukraine is support for the Ukrainian people against the invasion of a foreign power. This is a conflict between two nations, not a personal drama between their leaders. Even with the most corrupt leadership in the world, the Ukrainian people have the right to defend themselves against this Russian invasion. It is also laughable to attempt to discredit the defense of Ukraine on the basis of claimed corruption when any such corruption pales in comparison to that of Putin and his regime. Those opposed to Ukraine need to stop viewing this as their own surrogate war against the threats of the Left and the New World Order. A Russian conquest of Ukraine will do nothing in that regard. Rather, it would only advance the imperial ambitions of those in Russia who cannot accept the breakup of the Soviet Union and the greater Russian world.

The people won't get anything, as usual. When Bidens were ripping off the Ukraine, the people lost money. Read the transcript of the video - the citizens utility bills went up 30% to pay for the fraud and money laundering. NOTHING given to the Ukraine as 'support' reaches the citizens. Biden is helping to strip the US of weapons, knowing that Zelensky's Azov military is certain to lose this conflict. Calls to send money are just redistribution plans to take American tax dollars and give it to Biden and his cronies while claiming to 'support the Ukraine.' The innocent people involved won't get a dime.


38 posted on 10/17/2022 9:19:47 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Renfrew

I guess you keep changing the subject because the fact that the Bidens strip the Ukraine along with other deep staters is irrefutable.

Handing weapons and/or money to the Ukraine is the same as directly handing it to our globalist enemies who work to destroy us.


39 posted on 10/17/2022 9:21:40 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: cranked

Things have grown so desperate in Kyiv, that the Ukrainians are literally having to resort to shooting at drones with rifles.

“Russia’s kamikaze drones. Protests, France & Moldova. Libya propaganda recycled. U/1”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ryrNQibEGo


40 posted on 10/17/2022 9:21:58 AM PDT by cranked
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