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Who DID blow up the Nord Stream gas pipelines... Russia or America? Finger of blame is now being pointed at President Biden amid riddle of blasts in the Baltic
Daily Mail ^ | 9/29/22 | Marc Nicol

Posted on 09/29/2022 5:05:31 PM PDT by week 71

Deep beneath the Baltic Sea, a remotely controlled submarine releases a mine which nestles beside a gas pipeline.

Other mines are laid at critical junctures along hundreds of miles of piping connecting Russia and Germany. They contain the equivalent of hundreds of pounds of TNT.

When they are detonated – either by a timing device or remotely from a secret control room – the aftershocks are felt 800 miles away and seismologists liken the blasts to earthquakes.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Broker

quite a bit. you would need to look at non-mainstream sources to read it, though.


121 posted on 09/29/2022 8:19:22 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: DesertRhino

it is such a machiavellian act - permanent harm to german economy and industry. remove likelihood that they would buckle and agree to start NS2 this winter - this is also a large loss of leverage for russia due to same. and with western media so willing to carry a narrative, blame russia, with a fair amount of the western population willing and able to believe them.

assuming there is a non-radioactive world down the line, it will be interesting to see if Germany pivots once they can get out of the current mess.


122 posted on 09/29/2022 8:21:55 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Yashcheritsiy; All

πŸŽšπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ NATO and Russia (and sometimes even it’s subordinate 9 nation CIS navy run and loiter the length of the Baltic Sea 24/7 365 Days a Year, and 366 days in leap years.

This has historically been going on, really non-stop since WWII, including right through the 1990’s, 2000’s, 2010’s, to today.

πŸ”ΉοΈ As a life long US servicemember, (and surprisingly mocked by several on FreeRepublic for being so), I have personally been involved around the world, as well as heavily involved in the EUCOM AOR, and also IVO Bornholm several time’s monitoring Russian “Vettes”, sub’s, and Spetsnaz activity. This has been going on since well before NS1 was even laid dow by Russia.

πŸ”ΉοΈ As well, it goes almost without saying, and as observed and experienced, Russia has viewed NS1 & NS2 nearly the same as CCP views it’s strategic man-made South China Sea islands-as-weapons. NS1 was the gate to full penetration of the Danish/Belgian littoral AOR.

πŸ”ΉοΈ I was not involved in the following, but I have for more than a few years now, had Belgian, German, Swede, Brit, and US friends who fly Poseidon MRA1 (P-8A), now US Navy P-8 Poseidon’s, in coordination with JSTARS and surface and sub surface ASW.

βš” It is also true ASW Bluescan sensors recently went total berserk, or suddenly stopped working altogether, all around multiple dedicated Norwegian/European energy platforms and lines and unions (from the North Sea, beginning/or around approximately two weeks before, and up to 10 days after the August 27 through September 4 Russian Open Source informed shut down and “maintenance” of NS1 here —

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

βš” There have been numerous other related Bornholm incidents, where US, Belgian, and other NATO mine and sub-hunter vessels have been chased/or pushed away from Bornholm (even while Danish). Not all are Open Source published, but happened again here —
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

βš” As well as the following link, where we had several skirmishes with heavily armed Russian Navy throughout the Baltic, and AGAIN to under 4 kilometers from Danish Island of Bornholm, which actually included Spetsnaz (again between tbe second week of SEPTEMBER nearly.to.the present!) —

https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/09/20/russian-navys-baltic-fleet-ships-hunt-down-enemy-subs/

πŸ”ΉοΈ Personally, I believe it of note, that toward the end of WWII and after, the Russians dumped up to 90,000 thousand tons of ordinance, and around 45,000 thousand tons of Russian nerve gas just off the East Coast of the se Danish Island of Bornholm, proximal to NS1 and MS2.

A lot of people on FR are demonstrating by their own responses, for all to see, their very uniformed and modern historical geopolotical and naval, and territorial littoral illiteracy.

This exact same type of activity is also heavy along other European and US coastal waters, (and Eastern Med, Persian Gulf, SCS), and has increased very significantly over the past 12 to 14 years.

From the level of knowledge being revealed on FR of all places, folks would be 100% shocked if they had any idea what has really been taking place.

Reality seem’s near alien.

What a time God has determined US to live! πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸŽš


123 posted on 09/29/2022 8:35:31 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Yashcheritsiy; All; Zhang Fei; SaveFerris; MAGAthon; familyop; Paul R.; marcusmaximus; ...

πŸŽšπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ NATO and Russia (and sometimes even it’s subordinate 9 nation CIS navy run and loiter the length of the Baltic Sea 24/7 365 Days a Year, and 366 days in leap years.

This has historically been going on, really non-stop since WWII, including right through the 1990’s, 2000’s, 2010’s, to today.

πŸ”ΉοΈ As a life long US servicemember, (and surprisingly mocked by several on FreeRepublic for being so), I have personally been involved around the world, as well as heavily involved in the EUCOM AOR, and also IVO Bornholm several time’s monitoring Russian “Vettes”, sub’s, and Spetsnaz activity. This has been going on since well before NS1 was even laid dow by Russia.

πŸ”ΉοΈ As well, it goes almost without saying, and as observed and experienced, Russia has viewed NS1 & NS2 nearly the same as CCP views it’s strategic man-made South China Sea islands-as-weapons. NS1 was the gate to full penetration of the Danish/Belgian littoral AOR.

πŸ”ΉοΈ I was not involved in the following, but I have for more than a few years now, had Belgian, German, Swede, Brit, and US friends who fly Poseidon MRA1 (P-8A), now US Navy P-8 Poseidon’s, in coordination with JSTARS and surface and sub surface ASW.

βš” It is also true ASW Bluescan sensors recently went total berserk, or suddenly stopped working altogether, all around multiple dedicated Norwegian/European energy platforms and lines and unions (from the North Sea, beginning/or around approximately two weeks before, and up to 10 days after the August 27 through September 4 Russian Open Source informed shut down and “maintenance” of NS1 here —

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

βš” There have been numerous other related Bornholm incidents, where US, Belgian, and other NATO mine and sub-hunter vessels have been chased/or pushed away from Bornholm (even while Danish). Not all are Open Source published, but happened again here —
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

βš” As well as the following link, where we had several skirmishes with heavily armed Russian Navy throughout the Baltic, and AGAIN to under 4 kilometers from Danish Island of Bornholm, which actually included Spetsnaz (again between tbe second week of SEPTEMBER nearly.to.the present!) —

https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/09/20/russian-navys-baltic-fleet-ships-hunt-down-enemy-subs/

πŸ”ΉοΈ Personally, I believe it of note, that toward the end of WWII and after, the Russians dumped up to 90,000 thousand tons of ordinance, and around 45,000 thousand tons of Russian nerve gas just off the East Coast of the se Danish Island of Bornholm, proximal to NS1 and MS2.

A lot of people on FR are demonstrating by their own responses, for all to see, their very uniformed and modern historical geopolotical and naval, and territorial littoral illiteracy.

This exact same type of activity is also heavy along other European and US coastal waters, (and Eastern Med, Persian Gulf, SCS), and has increased very significantly over the past 12 to 14 years.

From the level of knowledge being revealed on FR of all places, folks would be 100% shocked if they had any idea what has really been taking place.

Reality seem’s near alien.

What a time God has determined US to live! πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸŽš


124 posted on 09/29/2022 8:43:11 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Interesting. Thanks


125 posted on 09/29/2022 8:47:14 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: ohioman

LOL

Did I trigger you? Did I hurt your feelings? Poor little you.


126 posted on 09/29/2022 8:48:22 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: cuz1961
Finger of blame is now being pointed at President Biden

Butt Biden is busy with his finger, he's sitting on it.

127 posted on 09/29/2022 8:48:24 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: JustaTech
How long was the nat gas escaping into the atmosphere?
128 posted on 09/29/2022 8:51:34 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Delta 21

πŸ˜‚ That’s Great!


129 posted on 09/29/2022 9:00:42 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: week 71

It’s the “green” naziglobalfacists...i.e. Biden’s puppet masters. They don’t want oil and they especially don’t want Putin controlling oil.


130 posted on 09/29/2022 9:09:59 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: week 71

Thank goodness they’ve realized Biden regime is guilty.


131 posted on 09/29/2022 9:19:01 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: cuban leaf

Great game.


132 posted on 09/29/2022 9:26:33 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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To: patriotfury

A lot of people on FR are demonstrating by their own responses, for all to see, their very uniformed and modern historical geopolotical and naval, and territorial littoral illiteracy.

/\

Well thanks for the info.

Sadly, you forgot to sum all that up for us.

Do you think Russia blew up their pipeline ?

Do you think NATO blew up the pipeline ?

Do you think US blew it up ?

Or do you suspect that out of all that ordinance something finally went unstable and went off and set some more off and it was just an accident waiting to happen and wasn’t an intentional act by any nation state or agent ?

Not meaning to be combative or snide, I’m genuinely curriouse what conclusion the info you provided leads to.


133 posted on 09/29/2022 9:37:16 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

China owns Biden
Biden blows pipeline

China benefits, that’s who.
β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”-

Once upon a time Russia and Nazi Germany secretly partnered to take down Poland.


134 posted on 09/29/2022 9:42:33 PM PDT by jcon40 (Machinery is only as good as its design and quality of parts. A citizen is only as good as...)
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To: cuz1961

Or do you suspect that out of all that dumped ordinance something finally went unstable and went off and or was accidently set off ...


135 posted on 09/29/2022 9:43:59 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: marcusmaximus; cuz1961

More —

For well over a year and a half, US/NATO has had an ASW/Anti-Mine warfare training event scheduled in Portugal.

Not necessarily so significant in the run-up, the Portugal event WAS KNOWN IN ADVANCE, as a window of draw down on NATO’s North Atlantic, North Sea, and Baltic ASW/Anti-mine surface hunters and monitoring.

Ironically, you can see some of this info in my response #38, to the intentionally false graphic response #3

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4096867/posts


136 posted on 09/29/2022 9:55:13 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Agree entirely the on what is going on in the forum these days.


137 posted on 09/29/2022 9:55:13 PM PDT by Widget Jr (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ SlΓ‘va UkrayΓ­ni πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Chgogal
How long was the nat gas escaping into the atmosphere?

Depends on the size of the openings created by the explosives. Long, large-diameter pipelines represent a lot of storage capacity, so there might be gas bubbling up for days.

138 posted on 09/29/2022 10:02:08 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: cuz1961

I am stalling.

My strong desire is to reveal known information, but I need Open Source to stay out of trouble. Significant, points along NS1 and NS2 have 5th gen mines. And there is much more involved than that. But saying so publicly, and having to use OS is a real issue.

RU didn’t need 5th gen, they already had at least 250,000 + thousand well operable mines from the late 1990’s to even 2018. And we have been dealing with them all along. In fact, they know we will. RU isn’t alone either.

So am reduced to watching a tsunami of false and baseless conclusions being adopted across the conservative spectrum.

They already long had the leftist hating America, now they are successfully accomplishing the same on the “right”.

As I am a true and unashamed Believer, and a hard core conservative, traditional/Christian nuclear family, liberty loving patriot, I understand the default impulse to automatically and naively jump to a true enemy’s side, but this is totally wrong and evil.

Enough is known that it doesn’t matter if puppet Biden admitted we did it - we didn’t. In fact, I half way expect him to take/fulfill the order.

The Kremlin/Beijing/Tehran axis is very much aligned...


139 posted on 09/29/2022 10:14:20 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

More info , thanks,,

You still didn’t offer a conclusion or suspicion,,

If US and NATO is so bad ass , why didn’t they stop these pipelines from being blown up ?

( not saying they aren’t )

What’s your point.

Educate us.
We’re illiterate remember ?


140 posted on 09/29/2022 10:20:18 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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