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To: patriotfury

A lot of people on FR are demonstrating by their own responses, for all to see, their very uniformed and modern historical geopolotical and naval, and territorial littoral illiteracy.

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Well thanks for the info.

Sadly, you forgot to sum all that up for us.

Do you think Russia blew up their pipeline ?

Do you think NATO blew up the pipeline ?

Do you think US blew it up ?

Or do you suspect that out of all that ordinance something finally went unstable and went off and set some more off and it was just an accident waiting to happen and wasn’t an intentional act by any nation state or agent ?

Not meaning to be combative or snide, I’m genuinely curriouse what conclusion the info you provided leads to.


133 posted on 09/29/2022 9:37:16 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

Or do you suspect that out of all that dumped ordinance something finally went unstable and went off and or was accidently set off ...


135 posted on 09/29/2022 9:43:59 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961; patriotfury
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5mB5QDUSE. Skip to "FOUL PLAY?" at 10:33.

This is from the video and what I'm finding on my own. AG Nord 2 filing for bankruptcy on March 1. Germany is working to get natural gas from anywhere other than Russia. Russia already restricted, then shut down Nord 1 and Nord 2 was never pumping gas.

The US got what it wanted, Nord 2 is shut down. Germany is going to get what it ants from Africa and anywhere else it can. Gazprom is not selling gast through Nord 1 or 2 anymore, so they are not making any money, while they own it.

14:15 goes into the how. With all the commercial maritime, oceanographic, satellite and military surveillance going on in the Baltic, getting a ship or submarine a mile off Bornholm island over the pipeline for a extended period without detection is impossible.

Look up pipeline pigging of sending a a "pig", a probe with brushes or sensors down a pipeline. "Pigs" can travel hundreds of miles down pipelines. The only way to sabotage the pipeline undetected is to send a "pig" down the line and detonate by any of several means.

For Russia, Nord 1 and 2 are now nothing more than useless metal at the bottom of the Baltic. No one wants their gas anyomre, and the lines are Russian owned. The damage to Nord 2 only destroyed Russian owned property. Destroying their own redundant pipeline gets rid of a what is of no use them anymore, gives political cover over the Gazprom contract, and intimidates Europe by threatening other undersea assets.

I hope this makes some sense.

143 posted on 09/29/2022 10:26:19 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: cuz1961; marcusmaximus; Zhang Fei

Another very cursory “OS” search and response, which only took 15 to 20 minutes, which reveals the heavily increased, and potentially catastrophic threat level constantly being faced right now —

Response #14 here —

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4096896/posts

I know I threw it together very sloppily l, and I skipped several nuke sub and energy platform incidents, but this was just OS, and almost entirely this year.

Scroll through, and you will see things you probably already knew, and maybe a few new ones.

It’s nuts!


146 posted on 09/29/2022 10:35:18 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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