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PennDOT following ‘roundabout’ way to improve road safety
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | September 24, 2022 | Ed Blazina

Posted on 09/25/2022 6:42:21 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Some drivers may be confused or intimidated by roundabouts, those circular intersections where all traffic circles to the left until motorists find their exit to the right.

But drivers better get used to them — the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation is sold on the improved safety and traffic flow roundabouts provide and expects to install more of them to replace traditional intersections that use traffic signals or stop signs.

The department last week released a study that reviewed 36 roundabouts that had replaced traditional intersections for at least three years. It found that deaths at those locations dropped to just one from three; serious injuries dropped 76%; minor injuries 22%; and possible or unknown severity injuries 70%. Overall, the number of crashes dropped by 9%.

Jeff Bucher, PennDOT’s division chief for highway, design and technology, said the state expected the increased safety numbers. That’s because roundabouts slow down drivers in general and eliminate left turns across traffic that lead to high-impact side crashes.

“The roundabouts are designed so people enter at a slower speed so if there is an accident, it’s usually a minor fender-bender rather than the T-bone accidents you get at traditional intersections,” Mr. Bucher said. “All the turns are right-turn movements, not left turns across traffic.”

The use of modern roundabouts began in the early 1990s and were approved and encouraged by the Federal Highway Administration in the later 1990s. Some states, such as Florida, Washington and Wisconsin, have been leaders in adopting them.

Pennsylvania is about in the middle of the pack on roundabout use, Mr. Bucher said. In addition to those included in the study, another 38 have been installed on state routes and 16 are in the design stage.

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Unknown location: driver gets air driving through roundabout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFV57kkjXTI

61 posted on 09/25/2022 12:36:43 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is one near me that a full-sized vehicle cannot navigate without going over the curb. It really fouls up traffic as cars come to a stop trying to make the turn and finally realizing they’re going to have to pull up on the curb to make the turn.


62 posted on 09/25/2022 12:38:04 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There’s one near me here in PA but I’ve never tried it. Maybe I’ll decide to go that way one day just to educate myself on them. I checked it out on Google street view and it looks like it’s a LOT smaller than those infamous circles I’ve had to drive through in NJ.


63 posted on 09/25/2022 12:39:08 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Time to fly the black flag -- one of no quarter for Marxists.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We have a seven entrance roundabout in the next town over. It was called the “most dangerous intersection in America.”

https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-news/hampden-county/east-longmeadow-rotary-still-a-dangerous-intersection-drivers-say/

Rotaries are nice if people follow the rules. I had to drive through that thing every day for years. I learned that when people don’t follow the rules, it can have bad outcomes.


64 posted on 09/25/2022 12:44:50 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There's a whole YouTube channel dedicated to incidents at a Milwaukee roundabout:

https://www.youtube.com/c/MilwaukeeRoundabout/videos

65 posted on 09/25/2022 12:45:02 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Seeing all these videos with cars going airborne through traffic circles points to the need to place a giant granite stone in the center to stop anything from getting through.

That's going to cost a lot.

66 posted on 09/25/2022 12:50:12 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Wow. Almost as bad as the can opener bridge.


67 posted on 09/25/2022 1:01:36 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Time to fly the black flag -- one of no quarter for Marxists.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

The right-turn ramp concept does sound safer. Do you have an idea of the cost difference between the types?


68 posted on 09/25/2022 2:45:28 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (In my defense, I was left unsupervised.)
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The right-turn ramp concept does sound safer. Do you have an idea of the cost difference between the types?

My understanding is that the real estate needed is the biggest factor, not the grading, substrate, curbing, and paving.

69 posted on 09/25/2022 5:19:38 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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They do take up a lot more space and as far as I can tell will create more accidents.

Photo of roundabout.
https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/07Are-Roundabouts-Safer_535.jpg

Here is one by my old high school in Crystal, MN. I just noticed it earlier this year on a map so it must have been built not long ago. It looks like they have removed a house on the right. I bet many accidents have happened there.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Douglas+Dr+N,+Crystal,+MN/@45.0035566,-93.3606001,406m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52b3341a5d149891:0x69ce397bf717688a!8m2!3d45.0271346!4d-93.3600922?hl=en


70 posted on 09/25/2022 9:40:51 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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I think they could be safer. I posted links to videos of the few times where drivers went straight through them. Some were under the influence, some were police pursuits.

It's a mere fraction of the videos online of cars plowing through intersections that have traffic lights.

I think they need pillars or dragon's teeth to stop cars from going airborne over the top or driving straight through.

71 posted on 09/26/2022 4:23:49 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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