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Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go, study finds
Tech Explore ^ | September 22, 2022 | Provided by Stanford University

Posted on 09/22/2022 12:07:38 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Travis McGee

At some point, we’re going to have to develop a reasonably safe method of extracting the lithium from lithium batteries.


61 posted on 09/22/2022 1:37:21 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: central_va

>>”Over a hundred years ago the ultra superior ICE powered car crushed the steam and EV competition and both of those exotics were dead by the time WWI started.”<<

And they didn’t need the govt to ban steam or EV to win the competition.

[Not to mention the utter impossibility of viable steam or EV airplanes, which were in common use in ICE form by WW1 / 1914. And EV airplanes are STILL not viable today, due to weight/energy density.]


62 posted on 09/22/2022 1:39:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: I want the USA back

Not to mention the “minor” problem of mass evacuation from a hurricane, chemical disaster, war, etc.

What happens when thousands of EVs run out of juice miles between charging stations?

ICE vehicles get a gallon or 2 of gas from a “road ranger” riding the shoulder, and they are on their way.

EVs are SCREWED when 100s go flat away from charging stations. Mega highway gridlock that can’t be unblocked for days to weeks, without entire fleets ICE tow trucks.


63 posted on 09/22/2022 1:42:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

“Maybe we can drop them in used-up lithium mines.”

CodeToad’s Lithium-Mine Flight Services, Inc!


64 posted on 09/22/2022 1:42:14 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: nascarnation

>>”Not even a golf cart?”<<

A road and highway VEHICLE, not a neighborhood toy.


65 posted on 09/22/2022 1:43:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: heartwood

Roof-mounted solar panels, in terms of square feet and energy output, will take days to weeks to charge an EV.

Marginally supplemental at best.


66 posted on 09/22/2022 1:45:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Brian Griffin
https://www.solarfeeds.com/mag/solar-farms-in-the-usa/#:~:text=Solar%20Star%20is%20the%20largest%20solar%20farm%20in,kilometres%20in%20Kern%20and%20Los%20Angeles%20Counties%2C%20California.

Pretty interesting.....

I lived in SoCal for a time...I saw wind power get screwed up. I saw solar power get screwed up.....IMO they are ways for some people to make lots of money...but do NOT help the energy problem.

NAT GAS..and OIL...and NUKE are the answers.

67 posted on 09/22/2022 1:45:09 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: NorthMountain; CodeToad

>>”At some point, we’re going to have to develop a reasonably safe method of extracting the lithium from lithium batteries.”<<

Put that “at some point” wish on the list right behind maintaining and monitoring spent nuclear fuel, and cleaning up leaky EPA “Superfund” sites (Camp Lejeune comes to mind, heard of it recently?)

[Just what we need, another energy source that creates more problems than it solves.]

Unless you think open-pit lithium mines visible from space are cool. And their toxic-to-infinity poisonous tailing ponds. I’m sure all that glowing goo will just stay in those ponds forever, nice and safe. No farms or cities need fear them getting into the ground water, I’m certain.

Even safer than the old “EPA Superfund” water at Camp Lejeune. And a thousand other Camp Lejeunes that don’t have the lawyer-power, that are slowly killing people by cancer across the world today.

[By comparison, managing spent nuclear fuel rods is a piece of cake.]


68 posted on 09/22/2022 1:57:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad

Just mark them on Google Sat View as “Technology Volcanoes.”


69 posted on 09/22/2022 1:58:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Osage Orange

And will continue to be....along with “clean coal,” for the foreseeable future.

Yes, “clean coal.” Any source of powerful hydrocarbon energy can be scrubbed clean, given its intended uses.


70 posted on 09/22/2022 2:00:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Spent nuclear fuel rods can be and should be reprocessed and fissionable materials extracted for re-use. That’s what the Savannah River site was originally set up for. JIMMY CARTER (piss be upon him) put an end to that before it even got started. I hope you’re not casting your lot with the likes of that ‘rat.


71 posted on 09/22/2022 2:01:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: MortMan

Years ago in Dubai a zillionair Arab built a snow ski slope in a desert Hotel. It costs him something like $10,000 an hour to operate - and tickets were around $12 a person. Fewer than 20 people could ski at a time. He thought it was a wonderful idea and that indoor skiing would take off.

Reminds me of this battery car thing...


72 posted on 09/22/2022 2:03:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (STOP PROCESSING ILLEGALS. Democrats will use that act as 'documentation'. Just let 'em in...)
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To: Red Badger

So they found it would be better to consume ALL the spare generating capacity by daytime charging.
Question: What on earth are they going to power the grid with between sunset & sunrise? No worries.
Why not, they already can borrow ¼ million+ to study Madonna @ university AND keep all their GOVCO $$$ by never paying the lenders back! (Pure Fantasy, I say!)


73 posted on 09/22/2022 2:04:58 PM PDT by ClockDoc ( - Let the churches attend to the poor and the Gov. attend to our enemies.)
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To: Red Badger

All that cooper wire laying around to be stolen.
Constant worry about getting your electric car charged.
Running in and out of the building at break times in all sorts of weather to make sure you have enough electric power to get home on then enough to get back to work as you have to run errands after work and the electric car will need to be charged up at home of course all by coal and gas and nuclear power plants.

You cannot charge inside due to apartment and office building owners and insurance companies saying the electric vehicles are a extreme fire hazard. The electric bills will be enormous each month!!

I will keep my gas car where 4 gallons of gas has the same energy equivalent of the entire battery pack of the F-150 electric truck...!

The democrats do not think of the consequences at all.
Just how they will make money for themselves.


74 posted on 09/22/2022 2:06:32 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Travis McGee

Agreed, my friend.


75 posted on 09/22/2022 2:18:12 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: NorthMountain
Absolutely. And spent nuke fuel is a closed, contained, monitorable process.

Unlike lithium mine tailing ponds.

"Congo says 12 dead, 4,400 sick following Angola mine tailings leak"


76 posted on 09/22/2022 2:24:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NorthMountain

Link to Angola story above:

“Congo says 12 dead, 4,400 sick following Angola mine tailings leak”

[Personally, I think that Greta Thunberg should be “renditioned” to Angola and forced to work with the other child laborers in a lithium mine.]

https://www.mining.com/web/congo-says-12-dead-following-angola-mine-tailings-leak/


77 posted on 09/22/2022 2:26:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GOPJ; CodeToad

That is a fair comparison, viability-wise.


78 posted on 09/22/2022 2:27:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TexasGator

“Which for the average driver is topping off every night while sleeping and not having to mess with gas stations.”....Texasgator


79 posted on 09/22/2022 2:28:21 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Osage Orange

Amen.


80 posted on 09/22/2022 2:28:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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