Posted on 09/22/2022 12:07:38 PM PDT by Red Badger
At some point, we’re going to have to develop a reasonably safe method of extracting the lithium from lithium batteries.
>>”Over a hundred years ago the ultra superior ICE powered car crushed the steam and EV competition and both of those exotics were dead by the time WWI started.”<<
And they didn’t need the govt to ban steam or EV to win the competition.
[Not to mention the utter impossibility of viable steam or EV airplanes, which were in common use in ICE form by WW1 / 1914. And EV airplanes are STILL not viable today, due to weight/energy density.]
Not to mention the “minor” problem of mass evacuation from a hurricane, chemical disaster, war, etc.
What happens when thousands of EVs run out of juice miles between charging stations?
ICE vehicles get a gallon or 2 of gas from a “road ranger” riding the shoulder, and they are on their way.
EVs are SCREWED when 100s go flat away from charging stations. Mega highway gridlock that can’t be unblocked for days to weeks, without entire fleets ICE tow trucks.
“Maybe we can drop them in used-up lithium mines.”
CodeToad’s Lithium-Mine Flight Services, Inc!
>>”Not even a golf cart?”<<
A road and highway VEHICLE, not a neighborhood toy.
Roof-mounted solar panels, in terms of square feet and energy output, will take days to weeks to charge an EV.
Marginally supplemental at best.
Pretty interesting.....
I lived in SoCal for a time...I saw wind power get screwed up. I saw solar power get screwed up.....IMO they are ways for some people to make lots of money...but do NOT help the energy problem.
NAT GAS..and OIL...and NUKE are the answers.
>>”At some point, we’re going to have to develop a reasonably safe method of extracting the lithium from lithium batteries.”<<
Put that “at some point” wish on the list right behind maintaining and monitoring spent nuclear fuel, and cleaning up leaky EPA “Superfund” sites (Camp Lejeune comes to mind, heard of it recently?)
[Just what we need, another energy source that creates more problems than it solves.]
Unless you think open-pit lithium mines visible from space are cool. And their toxic-to-infinity poisonous tailing ponds. I’m sure all that glowing goo will just stay in those ponds forever, nice and safe. No farms or cities need fear them getting into the ground water, I’m certain.
Even safer than the old “EPA Superfund” water at Camp Lejeune. And a thousand other Camp Lejeunes that don’t have the lawyer-power, that are slowly killing people by cancer across the world today.
[By comparison, managing spent nuclear fuel rods is a piece of cake.]
Just mark them on Google Sat View as “Technology Volcanoes.”
And will continue to be....along with “clean coal,” for the foreseeable future.
Yes, “clean coal.” Any source of powerful hydrocarbon energy can be scrubbed clean, given its intended uses.
Spent nuclear fuel rods can be and should be reprocessed and fissionable materials extracted for re-use. That’s what the Savannah River site was originally set up for. JIMMY CARTER (piss be upon him) put an end to that before it even got started. I hope you’re not casting your lot with the likes of that ‘rat.
Years ago in Dubai a zillionair Arab built a snow ski slope in a desert Hotel. It costs him something like $10,000 an hour to operate - and tickets were around $12 a person. Fewer than 20 people could ski at a time. He thought it was a wonderful idea and that indoor skiing would take off.
Reminds me of this battery car thing...
So they found it would be better to consume ALL the spare generating capacity by daytime charging.
Question: What on earth are they going to power the grid with between sunset & sunrise? No worries.
Why not, they already can borrow ¼ million+ to study Madonna @ university AND keep all their GOVCO $$$ by never paying the lenders back! (Pure Fantasy, I say!)
All that cooper wire laying around to be stolen.
Constant worry about getting your electric car charged.
Running in and out of the building at break times in all sorts of weather to make sure you have enough electric power to get home on then enough to get back to work as you have to run errands after work and the electric car will need to be charged up at home of course all by coal and gas and nuclear power plants.
You cannot charge inside due to apartment and office building owners and insurance companies saying the electric vehicles are a extreme fire hazard. The electric bills will be enormous each month!!
I will keep my gas car where 4 gallons of gas has the same energy equivalent of the entire battery pack of the F-150 electric truck...!
The democrats do not think of the consequences at all.
Just how they will make money for themselves.
Agreed, my friend.
Unlike lithium mine tailing ponds.
"Congo says 12 dead, 4,400 sick following Angola mine tailings leak"
Link to Angola story above:
“Congo says 12 dead, 4,400 sick following Angola mine tailings leak”
[Personally, I think that Greta Thunberg should be “renditioned” to Angola and forced to work with the other child laborers in a lithium mine.]
https://www.mining.com/web/congo-says-12-dead-following-angola-mine-tailings-leak/
That is a fair comparison, viability-wise.
“Which for the average driver is topping off every night while sleeping and not having to mess with gas stations.”....Texasgator
Amen.
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